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Thanks for the feedback - Christmas got in the way!
"How much total time do they get out of the cage?Perhaps they need more playtime?"
Yes Tena, good point. The answer is as much time as possible, which turns out to be the later half of the day when my wife and I are not at work. This obviously does not count weekends and days off where they would get more out-of-cage time. I think they have a good balance of in-cage time and out-of-cage time and since they are only 1 year old I wouldn't want them to get use to 100% out of cage time - this might lead to some annoying problems when they actually needed to be safely locked up.
Our cage environment is a rewarding and playfull one by the way.
For those interested in this post, I've spent three sessions with my fids since my original post, just rewarding step ups and step downs into the cage and this has had good results. Now under some circumstances, they will happily step up from the top of their cage and be transported to their perch inside the cage - without flying off. This is a big change from two weeks ago - especially when they *knew* it was cage time.
I'll keep up the training.
DF
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