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thanks for all the helpful advise, my two spoiled tiels have not gotten a special treat yet, they like everthing. and they fight with me when I will not let them in the other tiels cages for their millets. if it wasnt for the other tiels are re -homed from a recovery program. I would let them stay in the other cage and play back and forth with 2 tiels here and 2 tiels there, but they are extremly upset if the spoiled once go any were near their cage. these four play together in there gym, chandler my head, but cages are off limited. which I think is a good thing I have three small hanging cages that the play in one has a bath tub in, one has paper in the other has nothing but they have ladders from each cage to play. but their cage now way. They were up at 5:30 this morning and I just got them to settle down. if I could bottle their energy , I would not make a fortune I would take it :) I am going to take all treats out of gym and but in cages and order a clicker start there and keep trying till I find what works with my baby's
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