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Originally Posted by Joel
Elizabeth.....You asked earlier how many hrs does it take for a normal crop to empty. Even though it varies some according to age etc.etc., I would say roughly about 4 (normally), if it was filled to proper limit & isn't overly stretched.
Your friend should NOT be allowing breeding if there is no one around anywhere to help in these kind of emergencies. She needs to separate the sexes. Try & get that through her head please......Since you seem to be having luck keeping this baby alive for so long, maybe there is no real problem requiring meds?.....You seem to be able to snap pics whenever necessary so could you snap one of a close-up front view & a side view just after you fill crop - asap. Then another one four hrs. later before removing or adding anything. Could you snap a pic of prepared formula also and state temps. in F degrees and explain consistency if it doesn't show well in the pic? I have never used that specific brand of formula so really can't comment on that. Any chance you may be able to get some Kaytee Exact over there?...Are you positive formula is fresh/not spoiled? Are you making up fresh before each feeding? Where are you storing it?......How are you sterilizing and where are you keeping evacuation tube between uses?......Just asking these questions to double check things, hope ya don't mind........I'm confused as to why no one over there handfeeds cockatiels or other small birds, hard for me to believe that (maybe you just can't find them)?....... Did you ask in person or call as many pet shop owners as you can for help or to refer you to a local breeder/handfeeder? Did you ask the vets - both Avian and regular to help you locate a handfeeder?...... The process and problems are basically the same for all parrots so if someone is qualified feeding larger birds, then it only stands to reason that they can help you with your problem child?
I would get that Nystatin if ya can and have on hand if needed, not gonna make a diff. though if he doesn't have a yeast problem in the crop but keep some available anyway.
I agree that you should NOT have put him down. As long as you are safely emptying left-over formula from the crop & as long as he doesn't have a bacterial or fungal infection etc. or get one, then he should make it. You must be extremely careful not to aspirate him and of course not suck into that tube the lining of his esophagus. Best of luck to him and you. I'll try and check back as I can to see if I can possibly help any further, not sure what time difference is between Sweden & here? Our world traveler Tiki can probably enlighten me/us on that.....Later
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My babys father flew away and his mother is now sold :(. She has been acting really strange but I guess its all about her personal problems. She is not my friend, I have met her once.
Yesterday (11 pm) I gave him about 7 ml (7 gram) formula and removed 1 ml 7 am. My experience (from the last couple of days) is that it is the last 2 ml that takes a long time to pass.
I follow intructions when mixing the formula (1 formula and 2 water). I boil water (we have very nice water in Sweden) and mix the formula, then wait until the formula is 104-107 F. I weight him afterwards to se how much I have fed him (this morning 6 ml/g). I will take pictures when I go home on my lunchbreak (at 10 GMT). I mix the formula so it is "solid" (it cannot move fron the spoon) then i add some drops so it will run of slowly. I make fresh every feeding, but im not sure the formula is fresh, she gave it to me. It never occured to me that the formula might be old

. I will try to find Kaytee.
No noone I have ever heard of handfeed their small parrots, there is no need, they become sweet sweet pets in a few days anyway.
All breeders live in the southern of sweden (500 miles from here) and I dont think theyll accept him anyway. My breeder of senegals (I found out later) just mix the formula a bit and doesnt care about the temperature! Most of the breeders doesnt want to handfeed the babies, the just do it for the money

. Cockatiels costs about $60 from a good breeder. They are not handfed but tame.
I store everything on his private desk, cleaned. I just carefully clean everything and then pour boiling water over the things (bleech is bad for this purpose). Should I store it in the freecer instead? Do you think I should buy new hand-feeding formula (any brand) just in case the one I have is old?
What will happen if i suck the esophagus or scratch it? How will I know if I have done it? (Im emptying him before the last and first feeding of the day, more? less?) He is a bit red by the crock in the neck

. I will try to take a picture of it. I have prepared the tube too so it sucks up the formula better (without getting stuck). He struggels a lot when Im trying to put the tube i him.
Will you need a film of him or something? Today Ill feed him 7am, 12am(?), 5pm and 11pm. I think that is better for him. Im going away to give a cat medicine at 6pm-7pm but will try to post pictures before that. (I have some troubles with the am-pm thing, hope I got it right)
My friend (who I posted the other question for) lives in the southern of Sweden, near some kind-of experienced breeders. She has never handfed herself.
I have Nystatin in my fridge (about 5 cl) Harrisson and Harrison rekommends 0.1ml/100g(bird) mixed in the formula.
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