Parrot Ownership (or why one should really do the research before buying a pet....)

[FloorCandy]

Does anyone know anything about that monk sanctuary in Maryland? Like where are they exactly, and do they allow visitors? I dont want to play the clip again to catch the name, Henry started screaming when he heard the too lol.

[perchingbird]

It was very one-sided. Birds develop problems when something is wrong with their lives, but that can be repaired for a lot of them. That bit made them seem like they develop problems "just because".

I didn't like Tweeti's interview at all. She's choosing to live with her bird that way, it's not how you HAVE to live with a bird, but that's how she portrayed it. I certainly don't have towels all over my furniture. I don't get bitten every day. And the only time I wasn't sure if I could handle owning one of my parrots was when he got sick and convulsed for two days straight.

I'm glad that the bit might make people think twice about getting a parrot, but as typical with the news it's more sensationalized than true.

[MissV]

In my child development class, we were going over an aspect of child development called "Transactional Perspective."

Basically, mother has complications = mother gets stressed > baby picks up on this and is miserable and crying all the time > mother avoids child more > child develops behavioral issues > mother punishes child, let's say physically > child acts out with violence

and it goes on and on and on. This can happen in any sort of manner, the point is that something affects something, which reacts and affects that first something in return...then the trend continues, always back and forth.


I find this a GREAT example of exactly what happens with parrots and owners that are irresponsible/don't know/don't try/whatever. That woman with the Lorie is so far into this that she doesn't even see where the problem lies anymore, and just like others, she assumes it's how the bird is and she's done everything she can for it.

Now, this is not a clip vs flying thing, so let's not do that. But I couldn't help but notice how that little guy was going everywhere he pleased. This could be fixed by EITHER clipping to control flight OR proper flight/recall training.

Next problem? The idea that she felt she couldn't leave the bird. Ever.
Who the crap is establishing this? Have you thought about getting a companion? Probably not, because that seems like more work and further behavior problems...but it could alleviate the loneliness the little guy was probably experiencing when his bipedal flesh-servant was gone. ^^


On the other hand, I want her aviary. Dang.

[asulli]

I have seen this video over and over again and I just do not get it. This woman really looks miserable! I have 3 feathered babies. They all know how to play independently. When they are in their condos they know that this is their time to explore, just hang out, play with their toys, etc...When they are out they talk, sing and make noise and explore the "outside" of their Condo’s! I think is what one establishes when you get them home in the beginning, it is an understanding. These are very very intelligent beings --- for instance if they hear me in the kitchen at 5:00 a.m., but I have not uncovered their cage they might make a few sounds, but that is it. So I can actually sleep in on a Saturday or go to my kitchen in the middle of the night. I know that having a schedule is good, but sometimes is can be difficult if you want to do something else...I never really feed them their dinner at an exact time, because I myself do not eat at the same time every day. I do not play with them at the same exact time every day, because things change (going to the mall, going to a movie etc...) During the week we do this and during the weekend we do that. My husband and I are people who are very spontaneous....and our fids, I think, really understand this! Sometimes we take them to the front yard, sometimes to the back yard, sometimes we go to friends’ house, and sometimes to the park...they are used to changes.
But one thing they do know, when it is time for individual play it’s all about who we are playing with. The other ones know that there time is coming and it is all good.
P.S. I also wish I had her outdoor aviary. I have to get one of those built.

[mommaof3]

I am so glad I am taking the time to do my research first. I could never give up my bird after 19 years. She just quit, I couldn't do that.

[Jag]

Originally Posted by FloorCandy

Does anyone know anything about that monk sanctuary in Maryland? Like where are they exactly, and do they allow visitors? I dont want to play the clip again to catch the name, Henry started screaming when he heard the too lol.

Most areas of the Buddhist compounds are open to the public during certain hours. There are certain days of the year when they wouldn't be accessible to the general public, but those aren't too often. Looks like this one has the temple open all the time! The sanctuary probably has its own days/hours since it wouldn't be directly next to the temple, etc. Let me do a quick search so I can find it.

Here you go
http://www.tara.org/visit-us/maryland-temple/

There is a link there to the sanctuary.

[FloorCandy]

Thanks Jag! They're grounds look lovely, and they say their aviary is open to the public. Now I just have to convince hubby to take me there lol.

[xafsmom]

Originally Posted by MissV

In my child development class, we were going over an aspect of child development called "Transactional Perspective."

Basically, mother has complications = mother gets stressed > baby picks up on this and is miserable and crying all the time > mother avoids child more > child develops behavioral issues > mother punishes child, let's say physically > child acts out with violence

and it goes on and on and on. This can happen in any sort of manner, the point is that something affects something, which reacts and affects that first something in return...then the trend continues, always back and forth.


I find this a GREAT example of exactly what happens with parrots and owners that are irresponsible/don't know/don't try/whatever. That woman with the Lorie is so far into this that she doesn't even see where the problem lies anymore, and just like others, she assumes it's how the bird is and she's done everything she can for it.

Now, this is not a clip vs flying thing, so let's not do that. But I couldn't help but notice how that little guy was going everywhere he pleased. This could be fixed by EITHER clipping to control flight OR proper flight/recall training.

Next problem? The idea that she felt she couldn't leave the bird. Ever.
Who the crap is establishing this? Have you thought about getting a companion? Probably not, because that seems like more work and further behavior problems...but it could alleviate the loneliness the little guy was probably experiencing when his bipedal flesh-servant was gone. ^^


On the other hand, I want her aviary. Dang.

The lady with the lorie is the ever so acclaimed bird activist Mira Tweti. You know, the person who whisks around and shows how horrible it is to breed/own/possess/whatnot parrots all the time.

Looks happy doesn't she?

[Parrotbay]

After watching this a few days ago, I couldn't believe how absolutely miserable she (Mira Tweti) is. This was one of the reasons I wrote the Vacation question as well. Let's face it, wouldn't it be nice if all of us were in our 'wild/natural' atmosphere? I mean... turn off these 'computers' now! They are not 'natural' to humans....... you get my point.


Shouldn't we be the best possible humans for our feathered companions? As in the happiest, loving, best version of us? I'm just saying.... I wouldn't want to be her bird....

[Monica]

I posted in another thread about this.... and I feel that Mira Tweti is a benefit to the community, no matter how negative she is. It is for the *FACT* that she has this "negative atitude" that I find that she's a benefit.

Too many people only want to look at the good side of owning parrots, and hardly anyone out there speaks up about the bad sides. The momemt someone does, they get thrashed and perhaps even harassed. We end up with all these people who think they have these perfectly happy, healthy birds, then something goes wrong, and they don't know what happened. Quite often, we then end up with these behavioral problem birds, or perhaps even sick birds that the owners no longer want to care for, because they don't know how, so they then dump these birds onto other people, because it is not what the owners *EXPECTED,* let alone were prepaired for. If they knew the cons before getting the birds, then perhaps they may have been better prepaired for worse case scenario, or perhaps they would have decided that a parrot wasn't right for them after all, thus possibly one less bird that would end up being rehomed time and time again.

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