Public Message From BB

[Kevin]

Some people took sides on a recent thread of concern, that seemed to divide alot of people on how to treat the situation.... I am not taking sides in this matter but simply gonna make some points known...

I appologize for some people behaviors on the board.... and how some people reacted... Every one has an opinion and in an open forum / message board anywhere, anyone who posts opens themself to public comments...

The internet is not able to convey body language, tone of voice, and when you read flat text, most people post to the point, messages will be deciphered in all sorts of ways, wrong ways, for the good or the bad.

People here are genuine and caring for birds and don't want to see any harm... Some may be labeled bird extremists, and others well... normal people with birds that treat it as a pet and simply that. Each person has a set way of raising, training, handling birds and etc.... and I have seen some stupid arguements on here... and to be honest sometimes entertaining.... My stance is do what works for you.... Pick up tips and tricks where you can from the board...

It might be in a heated debate over how to select the right bird, when to ...., what size cage, some maybe not be the best anaology but you get the idea... People can pick up good things from any conversation heated or not...

With that said people will make comments , some you will like, some you won't like it just comes with the territory. It will always be a catch 22 for any message board owner...

Do I silence anyone who confronts a person, Do I side one way or another... If I take a stance one way or another, I am limiting the possible resources the community could benefit from... Message boards are kinda like the freemarket, sometimes you have to let the community police itself... and when it gets out of hand well, gotta lay down the law.

With that said... I didn't catch the whole thing, but I am sure somethings were said in the moment and didnt realize what they wrote, and how people would react. And I am sorry I wasn't made aware or around to police any comments that crossed the line...

To those who were alittle more verbal and over the top... Please remember your actions not only diminish your respect among other members, but also tarnish the community.... I will not have people tarnishing this community.

Live by the golden rule..... Treat those, how you would like to be treated!!

I hate having to come in and quarentine posts, and close them down! I don't want to be a censor...

This board is here for you! Abuse it, and well it will abuse you.... Take care of it and well it will continue to grow like a weed!

Kevin
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[Monica]

I see this post as being justly, though things could have been done to put the whole situation into control earlier (such as warning people to play it cool or they would get a warning), however people vented and their emotions did get out of hand. If you see a negative post, simply dont reply. If you have to post anyway, do so nicely (yeah, everyone hates being nice now-a-days, lets face it!). I often-times don't reply to posts because I either have no interest in it, I wouldn't know how to word what I wanted to say, or simply because my emotions would be so out of wack because of being emotionally hurt from something said that I simply read and not reply.

It's better to read through what you type and think about what effect it will have on the people that you post it to. Some people may feel like idiots without us knowing, others may feel offended by taking advice the wrong way, or if the advice given wasn't worded 'correctly'.

I didn't take any 'sides', but my own in this situation. Maybe what she did wasn't something she should have done, but she atleast said she had her faults and knew in the end that what she did she shouldn't have done (we all must learn our mistakes, though its better to learn someone elses mistake before doing so yourself, even if your own mistake teaches you far more than another persons).

I'll 'accept' her faults for she did confide in the fact that she wasn't educated. It cost a poor babies life, however she has learned from it and is still learning, even though its through the hard way. She doesn't plan on coming back here, so this really should be the end of the talk of her and her birds (for all who have read the posts or have kept up with them). Can we just leave it at that? Kevin has already made a threat to delete all further posts about her and her birds.

Lets just keep all the anger and emotions out of what is left, and lets get on to the rest of the birds and people here at BirdBoard who WILL be here for our advice that could mean the better or worse life of their current birds. We are here to educate new owners for the better welfare of their birds, and to share our own experiences. I would like to keep it that way, as I'm sure many others here want to. We've already gone through this 'issue' before, so why repeat it yet again?

[The Outlaw]

A train wreck is a train wreck. Most are avoidable. When the most basic rules of the road are ignored even after they've been stressed over and over again you can expect and indeed predict the logical outcome.

This isn't the first time we who love our birds have had to endure the callous and flagrant disregard for the very pets/companions we are supposed to love and protect so much.

To prevent problems on the main board, I took it to my private board. It had to be finished. It had to be aired. Its over and done. There is a price you pay when you act irresponsibly. This isn't a golf board, a skate board, or a lonely hearts club. Its a birdboard where people come to learn and share. Its not open season on birds. If it is, please let me know.

THE OUTLAW

[Vikingchamp]

I agree with you Nancy, it was better to take it to the private board. I am normally afraid to post any of my opinions becuase so many people take them into offense. I got ban for something that wasn't even offensive, and then I stated another opinion on a b&g forum and got warned for it. Everyone takes everything differently, and apparently the things I say are normally offensive, so I am still kind of holding back on posts and just reading and kindly replying without stating my opinoins, becuase im afraid I will get ban if I say the wrong thing... Again.

[wildirish]

I realize that we all got very emotional in this! It was hard not to. I was never worried about being banned for voicing an opinion harsh or not until now.

I have had those harsh opinions thrown at me when I first started taking in rescues. If it weren't for those very opinionated people I probably would have ended up being another one of those rescues who kept going and got in way over my head.

I don't mind playing by the rules, but it really bothers me when situations that could've been avoided happen for the wrong reasons, but guess I won't be saying much anymore.

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my posts, I tried to maintain control until the end. I am willing to help anyone anyway I can, as the same help was and is offered to me all the time. However I have a very hard time sitting back and watching a situation spiral out of control and know that there is nothing any of us can do to help. It has happened more than once and on other boards as well.