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Old 11-06-2005, 12:18 PM
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Nonstick pans again- ameriware

Ok Anytime I have discussed non stick pans with any bird expert I have heard if it is non stick it is teflon. Well I was in Sam's club the other night and watched a demo on this nonstick pan. The guy claims it is all commercial cookware and resturaunts are not allowed to use teflon when cooking. He says they are coated with a titanium, ceramic coating and there is absolutley no chemical compound of teflon in the pan at all. These pans were unscratchable and you can use metal on them, He had one sitting on high heat for six hours without any smell or adverse effects ( like the pan melting) These can even go in the oven. They have a 25 year guarntee, I think it is called Ameriware.
Now is the sales man scamming me or not? Has anyone ever heard of this? Is there actually non stick cookware out there that is safe to use? Is it true that resturaunts can not use teflon in there pans?

I will investigate further, But I have my doubts.
I don't want to hear from the people who promote teflon , I am not asking whether to use teflon or not. That is something I will not do.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:24 PM
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Hhhhmmmm. I haven't heard of this Ameriware. Would consider purchasing IF, it truely lived up to what the salesman said. Like you I am a bit skeptical, but hopefully with the public becoming more aware of the dangers associated with the use of Teflon, maybe someone has developed a safer cookware. Hope so anyway. Was it very expensive?
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I would try to get an email address for the manufacturer and ask them. Explain you have birds and ask them if there are any compounds in the cookware known to be harmful to birds. I guarantee you their legal department will only let them tell you its birdsafe if it really is.
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:57 PM
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Why not use Stainless Steel? That is safe to use with birds, correct?
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:57 PM
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Why not use Stainless Steel? That is safe to use with birds, correct?
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:06 PM
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I did a little web surfing and found this
"I just received an email response from the Ameriware customer support. He said that Vollrath has been making cookware since 1874. He said that their parent company is Cook's Warehouse, Inc. and has been in business since 1978. He said that all nonsticks have some PTFE in it and the Ameriware nonstick is a three layered nonstick surface with ceramic and Titanium."

The full discussion can be found here http://www.cookingforengineers.com/f...er=asc&start=0

PTFE=Teflon=Bad
Ameriware is just more than happy to fudge the truth a little in the demos because they dont use Teflon(TM) brand PTFE in their product, so if you ask about teflon they will say no.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:17 PM
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Thanks, Jim

That's pretty much what I figured. Not all stainless steel is created equal. If, however, you buy GOOD stainless, you'll be very glad you did. I have both Revereware and Farberware and can't speak more highly about them. In fact, I've actually bought some of the more unusual pieces on Ebay. Goodwill can also surprise you if you know what you're looking for. The nice thing about the Revereware is that it has copper bottoms and they are the best source for good heat distribution.

As for fry pans, well, I still think its hard to beat your good old cast iron, well-seasoned. Nothing sticks to mine and I fry eggs all the time. The secret is in the curing of the pans. Do it right, and its better than teflon and never scratches or flakes. I bake in Corningware and Pyrex. Never had a problem with either of them.

I sold my Calphelon and Circulon when I got birds. Any pan I can't stick in a dishwasher, with the exception of my cast iron, is simply not worth its keep.
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We use Revereware for cooking in our house. It is easy clean up and nothing to worry about as far as coatings.

The other good thing is that they are made in the town next to us that has an outlet with reduced prices.
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Oh buggers! what is wrong with the Calphelon. I just bought a set. I really like them.
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:06 PM
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I use farberware and Reverware.

Have used the same set since 1989. Like Outlaw, I also found some at good will and at garage sales.
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