I think somebody's ID'd Harry! Yay!

[Alyce Johnson]

Harry / Harriet (we were told s/he was a Blue Front) has been the subject of lots of speculation. S/he doesn't look like the other BF amazons I've seen, so I've been asking folks for opinions.

Well I think somebody here on BB ("Katebird") has correctly ID'd Harry!
Here's the same link she PM'd to me:

http://www.avesint.com/images/sale05/6.jpg

So you folks can take a look and see what you think.
Harry is the first amazon on the left, in my signature line.

My thanks to "Katebird"! I've been really mystified as to what type of bird Harry could possibly be.

[CALVINS MOM]

so is she a BF or a hybrid?

[CamelotCrazee]

Looks like a Chaco Blue front to me, only reason I say this is because a store I used to work at had tons of them and mealy amazons

[Lisa B]

I'm still thinking hybrid....
It does look like the bird in the picture, but doesnt resemble any here:

http://amazonaonline.com/TAS/modules...ndex.php?id=12

http://www.arndt-verlag.com/amazons.htm

[Alyce Johnson]

Harry looks an awful lot like several of the Yellow Napes on the main site from where that pic was obtained. If you google the main name of those folks and click on their yellow napes, you'll see several birds that look almost identical to Harry.

Supposedly, Harry was obtained direct from the breeder. Harry's human grandpa donated a breeder bird to a friend who was a breeder. The breeder offered the family a choice of an African grey or Harry.

Harry's owner didn't think he could handle a bird that talked as much as the African grey's parents did. So he chose Harry. He said Harry was a "blue front" but frankly Harry's "dad" wasn't the most savvy guy, when it came to anything about parrots. So he could have totally messed up on the name.

I think he just took the bird because the family was "owed" a bird by the breeder, and he thought it could be a cool pet. So he "collected" the bird they were due, but without doing any research or thinking too hard about it, frankly. His own dad, Harry's grandparront, was clearly the "bird person" in the family! But he couldn't take on another bird - the whole reason he gave his bird to the breeder was his own advancing age.

Now, the owner may have screwed up what type of bird he had (confused himself on the name) but it seems unlikely the breeder sold a hybrid bird without being clear about it, it seems to me. (usually hybrids are pricier, right?) Honestly I think I'm gonna have to try to get the guy to ID the breeder for me, if I want to get the true "scoop"...

[Irish]

To me he looks just like the one in your link, Alyce--but I am no way anything even close to an amazon connisseur/expert. Heck, I looked at that other link, and was blown away by just how many kinds of amazons they have on that other site.

So just what kind of amazon IS that bird in your link?

[The Outlaw]

I have a yellow nape that looks like the one in the link. Harry, however, doesn't. He has blue on the front of his head. Yellow Napes don't. He's a hybrid, most likely. Perhaps a BF and a YN cross.

[Lisa B]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyce Johnson

Now anybody want to take a guess on my "unidentified" baby below?
Some folks have speculated s/he's a hybrid? Opinions?

I mentioned this in the thread I deleted when the site was wacky....
"I'm thinking a hybrid also. Yellow crown with blue front."
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[kateBird]

The picture in the link that i sent Alyce is a pure yellow nape. Yellow napes do sometimes have some blue on the top of their heads - just look at my yellow nape. some are just not as prominent as others.

chaco blue fronts seems to have an all black beak from what i've seen. Harry has a beak that looks like it was horn-colored and dipped in black. yellow napes have this beak coloring, as well as the yellow front.

as Alyce said, it could be a hybrid, but they usually are sold for much more and a breeder would usually state this fact.

i was just searching the web for images and i found that image on the aves international web site and it was indeed given the name "yellow naped amazon".

[The Outlaw]

katebird:

I've checked out every zoo link and amazon classification and none refer to any blue on the heads of Yellow Napes. As for hybridizing, there are tons of amazon parrot hybrids and they aren't priced any differently than the purebreds. In fact, at this point in time, the gene pool is probably pretty much corrupted across the board. Were your bird's parents wild caught? How old is your bird? Just curious. As for pricing amazons higher, the MUTATIONS are much higher. Especially the blue ones. That of course isn't a hybrid at all.

Could you please post a photo of your bird? I'd like to compare it with my hen. Just for my own knowledge. I'm trying to learn all the time and I want to be sure I'm getting the best information. My Yellow Nape is a wild caught hen. She is approximately 26 years old and has her import band.