Some questions that i don't think have been asked before, and a Teflon question.

[xzkiskazx]

Hello Ive been doing research for a while now because i want to get a Green cheeked conure and i have two specific questions that i don't think anyone asked before, and a simple teflon question.


1) I live in New York City-Brooklyn and there is an avian vet that i found which has a really good reputation but the only way for me to get there is either 1-swim across the Hudson river 2- walk across a bridge lol or 3- take the subway and no right now we don't own a car.
The thing is i'm worried that if i take my bird on the subway with me it will die.. not too many states have subways so i don't know how to explain. Subways are polluted oftentimes they do construction work once in a while and of course there are rats running around on the tracks, it's really noisy and who knows what germs people have in the train all breathing each others' breath and underground air. God i made myself feel sick from thinking what i have to go through every day.
But there are definitely people that own birds here so i don't know how they do it, is it safe? or will it definitely kill my bird because i want to do yearly check ups to see if he/she is healthy.


2)How do you take your bird to the vet when let's say it's snowing like crazy without him/her freezing to death. I bet the majority of you probably have cars but my mom and i don't because she is cheap(and she does get paid really well) lol and we have public transportation.


3)So I live in a apartment building and there is a subway under us and when it goes by you can't hear it, but mostly everything vibrates a little so if there is something metal like a cage standing it will sure make a bit clinging. My question is, will my bird if i bring him/her home for the first time have a heart attack or panic attack if every 20 minutes everything vibrates a bit?


4)The Teflon question, again my mom's cheap and she will have a panic attack if something unnecessary is bought so she won't replace all the cookware, but i could buy one pan where i can do major cooking on that's not made with Teflon.
So would it be fine if whenever i'm cooking something i move the cage with my bird to my room close the door and open the windows to the kitchen and livingroom? If so how long should i wait till i can bring him back to the livingroom, or will the moving back and forth stress my bird?
and during wintertime i will definitely open the windows too, sometimes it gets so hot we have to.

[loyallyroyal]

Cant help you with the subway question, when I lived on Staten Island a car was kind of a must.

I think the bird would eventually get used to the vibrating, I dont think that would be a big deal.

For the teflon, I admit I use it occasionally, but I move Dewey to the back room and open all the windows, I wait about an hour after cooking to move him back in. I figure thats enough time for it to air out.

[chapala]

Re the non-stick cookware, what will you do when the weather is too cold to open the windows?

[xzkiskazx]

Originally Posted by chapala

Re the non-stick cookware, what will you do when the weather is too cold to open the windows?

"and during wintertime i will definitely open the windows too, sometimes it gets so hot we have to."
I have no problem with that, lately in New York City the winters have been warm and even so i'll still open them, my mom grew up in russia so she actually wants the windows open most of the time during the winter lol.

[Lori~D]

Then do not get a bird. Cold drafts from an open window in winter in New York will Kill it. The drafts from an open window is the most dangerous thing you have mentioned so far.

[kare_bear]

About the teflon, another room isnt even safe. Personal story... several years ago my husband was very sick and was having a hard time breathing so decided to boil some water. Mind you we never have any teflon in our house but his mom had brought stuff over in a pot a few days before.

He never thought about it and used that put and fell asleep, he woke after the pot had recently boiled dry. We lost 10 baby birds; conures & lovebirds. We lost several pairs of conures, a pair of caiques, plus several lovebirds and tiels. He called me at work devestated. the birds were in many rooms with doors closed; and even with opening windows we continued to lose several for the rest of the day.

IMO using teflon isnt an acceptable risk in any way.

[xzkiskazx]

Originally Posted by kare_bear

About the teflon, another room isnt even safe. Personal story... several years ago my husband was very sick and was having a hard time breathing so decided to boil some water. Mind you we never have any teflon in our house but his mom had brought stuff over in a pot a few days before.

He never thought about it and used that put and fell asleep, he woke after the pot had recently boiled dry. We lost 10 baby birds; conures & lovebirds. We lost several pairs of conures, a pair of caiques, plus several lovebirds and tiels. He called me at work devestated. the birds were in many rooms with doors closed; and even with opening windows we continued to lose several for the rest of the day.

IMO using teflon isnt an acceptable risk in any way.

I red about that in a lot of articles, the reason why they actually ended up dying is because the teflon over heated really bad, that's when its actually extremelly deadly to them.
I red some posts here where people would cook with teflon for a little and their birds were fine, and with the person who posted in this thread too but she actually put her bird away from the kitchen.

[xzkiskazx]

Originally Posted by Lori~D

Then do not get a bird. Cold drafts from an open window in winter in New York will Kill it. The drafts from an open window is the most dangerous thing you have mentioned so far.

Even if the bird was in my room with closed door and windows? =\

[xzkiskazx]

Well then I should go buy non teflon pans then, i'll have to get a job lol i will definitely be able to buy non teflon pans since i was planning to get a parrot next summer anyways.

I'm still wondering about the pollution and subway problem and how to transport a bird during the winter when its cold.

[DarwinTheSun]

What about taking a cab? Is it too far? You should only have to go to the vets once a year unless it is an emergency situation (which hopefully you will never have).

I can't agree more though on the teflon issue...if you want your bird to survive, then you are going to have to convince mom to chuck it all. Closing doors may help with some situations, but will not be good enough.