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Old 09-22-2006, 05:49 AM
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Just happened to re-read this thread. As for the member who asked about breeding pythons and being considered a good home, he would have to understand this truth: if his was the ONLY application and no other home could be found, then and only then would he likely get the bird. However, in most cases, there are multiple prospective owners vying for position.

Of course, there will always be desperate folks who will unload pets on anyone just to be relieved of the problems they themselves have often created.

As for the bird, how do you think it will feel if it comes into contact with a large python? All of my birds are handraised, with two exceptions that are wild caught. Even before I got my two "old ladies", my younger birds were terrified of snakes, hoses and even broom handles. Though none had likely seen a snake before, they were hard wired to fear snakes and snakelike things. I would not knowingly place a bird in a home that already had snakes for THAT reason alone.
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:51 AM
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I would love to have an update as to how the G2 is working out???????
I have read this entire thread, and being a smoker it seems I would not be a good home - luckily I have the 9 that I do.
I have mixed emotions about this entire thread - I can only hope that the G2 has filled their home, and heart, and that all is working out well. G2's are wonderful birds, but demand a lot of time and attention; they are so much more different than the TAG's and CAG's...........
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:58 AM
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A recent application for bird adoption I saw included - non smoking household, they allowed a cat but it must be declawed and any current birds in the house had to be tested for psittacosis. They also required home inspection and particularly mentioned checking your kitchen and home for non-stick cookware and other items. No children under age 12. I only got half way thru the application but there was more. I started to feel like a sub-human and didn't deserve or shouldn't have the birds I do have. Yet this same shelter was pleading for help - not enough space, not enough funds, not enough volunteers. It's a shame.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:44 PM
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A recent application for bird adoption I saw included - non smoking household, they allowed a cat but it must be declawed and any current birds in the house had to be tested for psittacosis. They also required home inspection and particularly mentioned checking your kitchen and home for non-stick cookware and other items. No children under age 12.
Ok, I know this is a BIRD rescue so they have the birds' best interest in mind, but wanting those cats to be DECLAWED??? There's something terribly wrong for any type of rescue organization to recommend that. Simply saying "no cats" will make more sense... *Goes to hug my 5 fully clawed kitties*
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:46 PM
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Ok, I know this is a BIRD rescue so they have the birds' best interest in mind, but wanting those cats to be DECLAWED??? There's something terribly wrong for any type of rescue organization to recommend that. Simply saying "no cats" will make more sense... *Goes to hug my 5 fully clawed kitties*
I know this is totally getting off the subject, but I don't think it's really the claws anyone needs to worry about. A declawed cat can definitely knock down a bird and bite it. We just have to be careful.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:51 PM
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I read the whole thread and found the opinions here absolutely fascinating.

I don't know much about ferrets (its illegal to sell/buy them here in CA) but I can definantly see the rescues perspective of trying to find the "ideal" home for their charges. Not that a less than ideal home would necessarily be harmful, but those birds have already been shuffled around and it's very understandable that they rescue would want only what is absolutely best and ideal for the birds who've often already been through so much.

Its important to remember that if someone has an animal they are trying to place, they are perfectly entitled to make whatever judgements on prospective owners they want to. Many of them are very valid (ie. non smoking) others might not seem to be (ie. only to single men or something) but it is the right of the owner to have whatever criterea they want in a potential home.

I know that if I ever had to rehome an animal (thankfully this has never happened) I would never let him/her go to a smoking home. While the owner might be responsible and loving and great, smoking is a big flashing red no in my mind and while someone may not agree with this sentiment, since its my animal I would be placing, I would be entitled to make that call, IMO.

As for cats, I think some cats can be ok with birds. I have a fatty orange tabby cat that I've had for years who has been around conures, horses and dogs and while I would still never trust her alone with my new baby bird, I don't think she poses much of a threat under normal/supervised conditions but I /know/ this animal and have for years, I know there definantly are cats I wouldn't even trust in the same room with a caged bird... but I've watched her around birds before and shes quite disinterested.
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:26 PM
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This is one of those threads that can be called "timeless" I guess...
lots of opinions about a scenario that goes on all the time and always will;
as long as there are people who want birds and birds to be rehomed or rescued.

IMO;
I do think that most rescues go way beyond logical reason
when it comes to wanting the "perfect" home for a bird.
There is no "perfect" home, or perfect owner, nor perfect bird.

I mean what's next?
"Sorry, you have too many un-covered windows in your home...a
bird can fly into one and get hurt." Or
"Oh no! your spouse smokes a cigarette outside on the back porch
every night after dinner... you are a bad home for a bird..."
I mean it just gets ridiculous, doesn't it?

It all comes down to a matter of choice and preferences.
Rescues, as ridiculous as they can be, certainly are allowed to
set their own standards as to what constitutes a "perfect home" for a bird.
But in reality, many times those stringent rules are the very things keeping
them from placing more happy birds in more homes with more than
satisfactory results. They are their own worst enemy at times.

I happen to agree about mixing natural predators in one household.
Ferrets and (large, dangerous) snakes do not belong in the same house
with parrots or birds, as an example.
Cats are trainable, as are dogs - and cats are smart enough to know that a larger bird can do some serious damage to them as well. Ferrets are not so trainable, and lets not even get into the mental capacity of snakes.... talk about going on instincts alone.

I happen to agree that placing birds who have a 'problem' dealing with
small children in a household with kids is a "no-no". Same thing for
cats or dogs if it's clear that a particular bird is uncomfortable around them.

I do not agree about smokers though. But that's me. I think people
can smoke responsibly; away from and without danger to birds in
the house. (and no, I don't smoke).

I also think non-stick cookware can be used carefully and responsibly
by adults who are aware of the *potential* dangers it presents to birds.
I think that's the bottom line; awareness and caution.
Educate prospective bird owners as to the possible dangers and
unhealthy environmental aspects they should avoid in their homes if they want birds. But to deny giving a poor needy rescued bird a home just because of some 1 in a million chance of a potential 'danger' is sad.

I said enough ..... don't want to get fried....
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