Dissapointment

[phatgun]

Well I have had a budgie but they never reproduce I dont know whats the problem, they seemt o have interested with each other male and female. Is it because they dont get expose to sunlight much since I live in a small apartment. What could be the factor???

[RXK]

hi,

can i ask why you want to breed them? i'm just curious. also, you are aware of the problems that can occur with breeding budgies, right? such as female (egg binding, chronic egg laying, cloacal prolapse, etc.) and male (hormonal, over stimulation, etc.) reproductive issues, health problems with the chicks, etc. and, you are prepared to spend money on vet visits if this were to happen, right? and, you do know how to hand raise/feed the chicks, right?

also, how old are they?

lastly, i encourage you to rethink breeding birds, especially budgies, because it just adds to their overpopulation; just too many budgies end up in shelters and lead poor lives because they are so abundant and "cheap." if you love them, you should rethink this and not add to this problem.

[phatgun]

I honestly dont love them as much since I bought them wild, and they always fly like a crazy birds whenever Im near them. I only love their chirp every morning and their beautiful colour. Yes I am a breeder in Indonesia not in here, and I try my best to keep them healthy with cuttlebone, veggies, and millet. if they got sick I dont think I can afford to get into vet. I wanted to see them reproduce like a happy family, I enjoyed breeding them back in Indonesia they seemed happy and all, true one of the eg might not be fertile and I had to threw it away. It was fun experience and I did read HOW to handtamed them while they are babies but I never handtame them nevertheless.

[Zeina]

Originally Posted by phatgun

I honestly dont love them as much since I bought them wild, and they always fly like a crazy birds whenever Im near them. I only love their chirp every morning and their beautiful colour. Yes I am a breeder in Indonesia not in here, and I try my best to keep them healthy with cuttlebone, veggies, and millet. if they got sick I dont think I can afford to get into vet. I wanted to see them reproduce like a happy family, I enjoyed breeding them back in Indonesia they seemed happy and all, true one of the eg might not be fertile and I had to threw it away. It was fun experience and I did read HOW to handtamed them while they are babies but I never handtame them nevertheless.

You should really think it through before you breed them,
ur saying you don't love them that much, and that they're wild. You should bond with them and know what ur getting them into before taking a big step into breeding. They need ur trust right now, so they could get used to you.

You know u can still train the ones u have, it needs patience, if u want handtamed budgies they don't have to be babies.

Hope someone else would respond and give u more info. regarding breeding budgies...

[Valo's Moirana]

sorry to be blunt, but you won't get advice from me for breeding them because i quite frankly think you shouldn't. you're not set up for it, your motives are not appropriate in my opinion.

what's wrong with trying to enjoy the pair you have - i mean, you could work with them, you know....

[LovelySydney]

I have to agree with most of the posters here, dont breed them. & if they dont want to breed then they just dont. There are humans who dont want children, no big deal!

I dont think you are prepared for these two to breed, it is a hard thing to do and very time consuming and although they would have a "family", it might not be the best thing for them.

[GracienGeorge]

Hi, is this the "phatgun" from Canada, the student?

[asulli]

It is amazing how someone can say "don't love them as much since I bought them wild".

Maybe it is me, but I love all the birds in my yard, the wild doves, the cardinals, blue jays, etc... I love the squirrels, the bumblebees – I make sure that these who chose my backyard have plenty to eat. I love the butterflies that not only live but actually "destroy" several plants I have so that new butterflies are born. In fact I have put bought several more bushes for them and after they are done laying and feeding, the bushes come back every year more beautiful than the last. I do this because I want to thank them for letting me enjoy the beautifulness of it all!

To breed just because "I wanted to see them reproduce like a happy family" is not a good reason. To be a happy family all they need is love, patience and making sure that their every need is met.

If you cannot afford to take them to the vet in case of an emergency, then it is my personal opinion that you should not be breeding them. It takes a lot out of a bird when they lay eggs over and over again. They need special foods and more care.

I feel I am a very very responsible pet owner. I have learned to give up some of the things that I thought made me happy (weekly manicures, bi-weekly pedicures, monthly facials, plug-ins, Lysol spray, $80 dollar perfumes, etc...) so that I can provide to those who are depending on me the best care possible. I chose to have them live with me, and they are my responsibility. This is what makes me happy. To see them healthy and happy.

[phatgun]

Sorry there are misunderstanding here. I didn't buy them WILD, but I meant they are captives but they dont like to interract with human. I love them enough that I will take care of them but I don't have enough time to handtame my bird. To tell you the truth I prefer cockatiel since they are easier to train. However I love my budgie because of their beauty always cheer me up every morning. I am longing for them to bare children and live their live happily.

[jenseits]

Originally Posted by phatgun

I love them enough that I will take care of them but I don't have enough time to handtame my bird.

You don't have enough time to handtame them, but you do have enough time to breed them?

It's good that you love them enough to take care of them, but I still don't think it's in anyone's interest to allow them to breed. You're really much better off working with the birds you already have and taming them. Maybe you'll gain a better appreciation for them. It sounds like you don't even like budgies very much... which makes breeding them an even worse idea.