New Vision cages by Hagen

[Eliza]

Any thoughts on the new Vison cages by Hagen? They are marketed for smaller birds, like finches, budgies and lovebirds.

New Vision (by Hagen) M01 cage:

http://www.ukpetsupplies.com/detail.aspx?ID=2292

Here are some specs (Adobe - pdf) on all versions of the new Vision cages:

http://www.hagen.com/pdf/birds/VisionII-UK.pdf

So far as I can tell, only the S01 and the M01 are available in the US via Petsmart.

For comparison, here are the specs on the original Vision cages:

http://www.hagen.com/pdf/birds/vision/index.html

I read mixed reviews about the original Vision cages, which is why I'm curious about the new ones.

-e-

[Monica]

I think the new cages are better designed, but I'd still be worried about a bird becoming scared or otherwise and trying to fly through the plastic... I never did like the originals....

[homebird]

Size: It is a bit bigger than my cage for Laker. Because the cage is small it would be OK for 1 Budgie.
A grill would be nice - we don't have one but to have it attached to the body of the cage - you'd have to clean it with your hands inside the cage? We take the top of the cage off the base as well for cleaning & don't use the tray.
horizontal bars: Laker really enjoys the horizontal bars that his cage has too.
Flat top: quite useful
Covered seed & water bowl: look pretty nice.
Perches: nice - but i am not sure they'd be the only type i's use.
Doors: look interesting - what is the advantage of them opening inwards?

The corner spacers & plastic edges to the top are strange tho - not off putting.
edit - I have a question - Why have the food at the bottom? - I always put the food up high - to avoid soiling the seed &water & to keep the floor less interesting.
Looks good overall

Here's my guy's cage 10: x 20" x20" roughly
[photo taken when we just got him - but then you can still see the cage well!]

[Eliza]

The perches -- eh. I don't much like the looks of them but then again, I usually toss the perches that come w/ a cage and use a variety of other ones instead.

The horizontal bars -- appealing. Beetle is a climber so I'd like to try to get him a cage w/ all horizontal bars.

I don't get the deal about the door opening inward, either. I mean, it's certainly better than it sliding up and down, guillotine-style. It would make more sense to me to have the door open out like a drawbridge. I had a cage like that when I had budgies and they LOVED when I left it open for them. They'd come out on their veranda (tee hee), chill for a while and then fly off to create mischief elsewhere.

-e-

[Lola Plus 10]

WE sell them at work. Both the short one and the tall one. in medium though. M02 and M01 I was almost concidering getting the M02 until i saw one of the other cages were selling. But Looking at them i think its a step up for vision.
I personally like them. If you want something fancy go for it. Their Big, Decent looking and easy to clean. It just depends what you want.
I like how the food dishes are at the bottom, Forcing the birds to use All of the cage aswell.

[Monica]

All this talk about horizontal bars... I can see where at times they would be beneficial to birds (i.e. tials and climbing), but haven't seen my budgies and vertical bars! I really think they enjoy them, cause they'll fly about a foot or so above their food dishes, then "surf" down, occasionally to stop to get past a horizontal bar!!! It's very cute!

They even 'bar surf' when changing perches!

[Cindy215]

Originally Posted by Monica

All this talk about horizontal bars... I can see where at times they would be beneficial to birds (i.e. tials and climbing), but haven't seen my budgies and vertical bars! I really think they enjoy them, cause they'll fly about a foot or so above their food dishes, then "surf" down, occasionally to stop to get past a horizontal bar!!! It's very cute!

They even 'bar surf' when changing perches!

LOL like this ? :

[CALVINS MOM]

I never liked the originals. They were poorly designed and broke easily. We had tons at the store and ended up selling them all for $15.00 to get rid of them. I hope the new ones are better made.

[Sally]

Chipper LOVES to surf on her bars! She would be very sad with horizontal bars! I love Kings Cages I think. That is what this new cage is.

[Monica]

LOL Yep, just like that Cindy!!!