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Old 08-22-2009, 06:30 PM
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Caique Ring Toss Trick

I thought this was the coolest thing...notice how near the end you can tell the baby is getting a bit impatient?



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Old 08-23-2009, 08:05 PM
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That is so cute.
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Are Caiques good at this?
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:08 PM
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That is really cute. I loved how she picked up two of them the last time and put them on. Was that cheating - or just a quick way to get the treat??? What a good little caique. Thanks for showing us that video.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:52 AM
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Isnt it amazing how smart birds are!!!! One day maybe Neko will be able to do that, LOL - one day!!
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:54 AM
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That is really cute. I loved how she picked up two of them the last time and put them on. Was that cheating - or just a quick way to get the treat??? What a good little caique. Thanks for showing us that video.
Because I noticed that he turned to the owner each time he put a ring on and didn't get a treat until he put the last ring on the post....I saw it as an "attitude." lol As if he was saying, "Ok, Ok, I'm done, fork it over!"
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:59 PM
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Yes - how right you are. And those caiques DO have attitude.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:30 PM
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Not sure if you mean "attitude" in the negative sense (the way kids who talk back or sass their parents are said to have attitude, often paired with the idea that they need better discipline or be taught "who'se in charge"). But I don't see it as attitude at all -- to me it seems like he's almost like an eager puppy (did you see that? did you see that? did I do good? Was I good? huh huh?) ... it looks to me like the bird was originally trained that way... he was rewarded for each ring he placed on the peg... so that's why the bird looks up expectantly. His trainer probably only recently switched to the higher criterion of "all pegs on the ring before reward"... and the caique will learn very quickly that the faster he puts all the rings on the peg the sooner he gets his reward. Once he sees that a single ring consistently doesn't result in a reward he'll stop looking for it until he's done with them all.

Here's a video of my sun conure doing this trick: YouTube - Sun Conure - Rings Trick
You can see he tries to cheat... he lifts up the same ring he just put on the peg, rather than getting the other one, and he definitely expects a reward for that too. LOL. He hasn't learned that this *doesn't* count because I sometimes can't help myself and give him a treat (it's just so darn cute!). If I want him to stop doing that, I would need to teach him this doesn't work anymore by not rewarding that at all.

I think this is a great trick to teach even the smaller birds! There aren't a ton of bird props that work for the small guys, but you can find several versions of ring toss that work for 'tiels and even budiges.
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Not sure if you mean "attitude" in the negative sense (the way kids who talk back or sass their parents are said to have attitude, often paired with the idea that they need better discipline or be taught "who'se in charge"). But I don't see it as attitude at all -- to me it seems like he's almost like an eager puppy (did you see that? did you see that? did I do good? Was I good? huh huh?) ... it looks to me like the bird was originally trained that way... he was rewarded for each ring he placed on the peg... so that's why the bird looks up expectantly. His trainer probably only recently switched to the higher criterion of "all pegs on the ring before reward"... and the caique will learn very quickly that the faster he puts all the rings on the peg the sooner he gets his reward. Once he sees that a single ring consistently doesn't result in a reward he'll stop looking for it until he's done with them all.

Here's a video of my sun conure doing this trick: YouTube - Sun Conure - Rings Trick
You can see he tries to cheat... he lifts up the same ring he just put on the peg, rather than getting the other one, and he definitely expects a reward for that too. LOL. He hasn't learned that this *doesn't* count because I sometimes can't help myself and give him a treat (it's just so darn cute!). If I want him to stop doing that, I would need to teach him this doesn't work anymore by not rewarding that at all.

I think this is a great trick to teach even the smaller birds! There aren't a ton of bird props that work for the small guys, but you can find several versions of ring toss that work for 'tiels and even budiges.
FUNNY, smart birds!! (his attitude was, let me see if this fools him..tries for a "twofer.").

I agree that attitudes can be positive or negative I tend to be "literal" in my application of words and their meanings

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2. position or posture of the body appropriate to or expressive of an action, emotion, etc.: a threatening attitude; a relaxed attitude.
I didn't mean it in the negative sense, but what I was reading is what I call "attitude" for lack of a better word. His attitude to me was "I'd done, fork it over." Your interpetation is just as good. I didn't see it as anything that needed to be trained out of him. It was just him getting the job done to get the treat..since I couldn't hear it..praise and approval didn't enter into my interpetation of what I saw.

p.s "eager puppy" is also an attitude unless my English is totally wrong? Attitude is a way of behaving as I understand it.
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awh, such a smart baby,lol!
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