here is the cage, which i am making myself for my tiels, need advices

[mobileman]

Originally Posted by Xen

I don't remember saying this forum was for people who speak English as a first language only! You being in India doesn' mean that you're not originally from England, Australia.... Japan or Africa. I don't assume! I merely said that by your replies it doesn't sound like you're understanding the dangers of that home made cage that people are telling you of. Ask them questions WHY the 'cage' set up or construction is bad for the birds if you don't fully understand!You don't seem willing to learn from their knowledge of what a 'tiel needs so why ask in the first place!?

So please, don't try and insinuate I'm saying something that I'm not, OK!

sir,
i want to apologize if u felt that, i am not listening frm replies.and my sorry goes to the fellow members, .when i have planned to own a petbird, then i started to find few web.and i have got here, really tremendous responses and exiting informations i am getting frm here.and i wanna get guided in future too.if someone felt in the same as Xen.please dont feel bad on me

again, dont misunderstand me please.

thanking you

[christie99]

Originally Posted by mobileman

my dear Xen,
and my dear tre and christie99, hope i have got mistaken abt the measurement, that, it is 18inch in width, 20inch in height and 24inches in length. well, hve put my two tiels in this, well, they are comfort inside, hope so. and as the bottom, i have put aluminum net.so, altogether (aluminum net, channels, revet and plastic(heavy duty) net, wht i am feeling is, restless and easy to carry and clean.

That is the bare minimum that I would ever keep a single tiel in. At first you said it was one foot in width, which is 12 inches, smaller than the new measurement you are giving, but not by much. For two, you really do need a much bigger cage. While yes, they can live in it, they don't have tons of room to run around, climb, flap, or get other exercise. This can lead to fatty liver disease which kills too many birds.

I am worried that the aluminum may have sharp edges or points where they can get cut and that the corners look like feathers and toenails can become caught in.

If it works and the tiels are safe, I'm happy for you, but I still say they need more space.

[mobileman]

hi christie99,
well, have got understood abt your worries, u have got long long experience with, espcially with cockatiels.
regarding edges or points,i have taken care it while construction.its works and tiels are really in safe. and will make another cage (with out borders, interested frm here) with more space. just give the minimum spare required for a carrying cage.be kind.

and regarding tiels, did i needed to get babiy tiels?? and how can i check the age of my tiels?? also, how can we check male and females??

waiting to get guided

[christie99]

For one bird, the minimum is 24x24x24 inches, bar spacing should be 1/2 an inch. For two tiels, make the cage as big as you can fit in your house. My tiels live in a cage that is 4 feet wide, 3 feet deep and 3 1/2 feet high, approximately.

You do not need to get baby tiels to tame them, but you do need to work with the birds, at least 30 minutes every day, seperately and out of sight of each other. Taming will be easier if you cage them in two seperate cages.

You said they are both whiteface lutino tiels, which is pure white, am I correct? If so, you can DNA test them or judge by how they act. Males will bang their beaks on things, sing a lot, and hold their wings out to the sides and strut, this will be heart shaped from above. Females are generally quieter.

If they are related and a male and female, you will want to cage them sepately so they do not breed with each other. Inbreeding birds does cause birth defects.

If the birds have identification bands on them, they may have their hatch year stamped on it, other than that, you can only guess. There is currently no way to tell how old a bird is unless you can talk to the breeder and find out when they hatched.

[mobileman]

christie99,
thanking you again.well, i have noted down your reply.and i will make the nexe by this month itself.but, firstly, i will make of that 24x24x24. for my traveling purpose.coz, i am having two houses. in weekends i will go frm one to another, so,nowadays i am keeping this tiels with me while my travel. and keeping in my bedrooms.and i am sure that, after getting tamed them with me, then i can easly handle those with my travel.Let Almighty bless to.

actually i have no idea,weather this is lutino tiles.its in pure white with an orange round in both sides of cheeks, bellow of eyes(as the places of our ears on head)

and yes i can feel differences on both. that, one is with a little seriousness and the other is showing too shy.may be first is male and the other is a female.but, the male is showing a little affection, and got more bravery , and trust on me, they will not move that much, when i am opening the cage. sometimes he will try to come to me to test millets frm my hand.

and also, christie99, could u explain more on what u have meant for by this: "seperately and out of sight of each other. Taming will be easier if you cage them in two seperate cages.'
means, i have to put them in two cages?? without of sight of each other?? that, on the time, whn i m trying to tame, is not applicable to catch both and to separate each??or do i need to do so?

thanking you again in advance

[christie99]

When you train, take the one you are taming to another room. This will keep the other bird out of sight so they will focus on you. Don't try to work with both birds at the same time, you will get nowhere, that is what I meant by seperately.

It is easier to tame if they are caged seperately, yes, that means two cages, but you can tame them if they live together, it will just take more time. The reason for this is they will bond more to you instead of the other bird.

Yes, it does sound like you have lutino birds. You will either have to tell by behavior, or DNA test the birds. Please, if any eggs are laid, boil them so they will not hatch. The birds are probably related and the babies could have problems.

[mobileman]

hi,
mm, so got cleared. but, present i cant try taming by taking one to another room, where, the male(i hope)sometimes giving permission for touching and the female, still hussing and running here and there,while trying to touch at least.still things will come on track.i will wait.
well, i have fixed two swings inside the cage, each at an height of 3.5inch frm bottom. put orange paint and hanged with chain.but, they are not even looking at these.! what i have to do, i have to decrease the height from 3.5inch?? also, have put a knotted cotton rone to climbe, it also same same.
now, i am to make a play gym with branches and feeing trays.

any guidance??

also, my dear christie99 and all other co memebrs, thanking you very much for sharing responses with this thread.

yours

[ndeben]

I have swings in my cages too, and some birds love to swing, and others do not like the movement of swinging. Let them get used to the swings, leave them in the cages, they may use them later. Thank you for working so hard in trying to have happy birds.

[mobileman]

well,
my male tiels, is willing to come to my hand to take foods, also, sometimes, he use to sit on my hands to take millets. i have separated both in two cages.in two places.

could u share few names for these and the guidance to get used on them.

be kind