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Old 06-26-2008, 08:55 PM
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We're not playing god. if your talking about that myth about a creator. we are just interacting with fellow animals. its been going on long before humans were even here. species were wiping each other out millions of years ago.

id like to see some proof, that there was no hybridization involved in the evolution of homosapiens, and i didnt say that hybridization was the same as mutation. read carefully. no evidence just means they havent found any, not that it didnt happen.

nuking and poisoning were just examples that we dont have the last say. on selection, or the end of life, unless we completely blow the planet apart. we will burn up the habitats long before we have any affect on the gene pool of parrots.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:20 PM
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id like to see some proof, that there was no hybridization involved in the evolution of homosapiens, and i didnt say that hybridization was the same as mutation. read carefully. no evidence just means they havent found any, not that it didnt happen.
Sorry to disappoint you, but that is not the way science works. You cannot "prove" something did not occur. Not to mention that it is equally impossible to "prove" anything at all, remember that gravity is still "just a theory".
There is evidence that no hybridization occurred between hominids and that has been tested with genetic and archaeological evidence.

And I was "reading carefully" thank you...you should write clearly.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:41 PM
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you are controdicting yourself. 1st you say there is no evedence (page 2), then you say ther is evedence (page 3) i said "proof' on purpose because it is as rediculous as your assumtions about science. so do read YOUR writings more carefully, and if i have misunderstood you at all, it might just be that you are not writting clearly either. peace brother. these things just go on forever, and i promised my self i wouldnt get into this argument again, but sadly i did. i will comment no further on this subject. we all have our own beliefs and no one can change that. i wont change my mind about hybrids, grit, clipping, or many othrer things that are debated here.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:42 PM
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Hello Everyone! The baby bird in that picture is mine. I believe it was posted without any permission...not mine anyway. He is the most adorable, loveable bird I have ever had the great fortune to meet and keep. Yes the breeder does intentionally breed these birds. I was one of the lucky people (passed all the screening) able to get one. Sounds to me that those of you that aren't happy with the cross breeding are jealous. At least I KNOW this wasn't the product of brother and sister, daughter and father etc...can all of you say that? I will let you know how he's doing and post a picture of him when he IS a one year old. Have a good day!
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:46 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you, but that is not the way science works. You cannot "prove" something did not occur. Not to mention that it is equally impossible to "prove" anything at all, remember that gravity is still "just a theory".
There is evidence that no hybridization occurred between hominids and that has been tested with genetic and archaeological evidence.

And I was "reading carefully" thank you...you should write clearly.
This guy is disgusting and has no class. He threw my entire argument out because I used the phrase "playing god" all of a sudden he's ranting about the MYTH of a CREATOR and using very rude smileys to try and make me look like an idiot. How mature. How classy.

Look, any idiot fluent in English knows that "playing God" is a very common phrase and in no way denotes crazy religious fundamentalism or creationism. But no, he ignores my entire argument and focuses on those two frigging words I posted: Playing God.

This kid (if he is a man I truly feel sorry for his family) is socially impotent.

ROYJOY, smart boy, why don't you PROVE to me that captive-bred hybrids have anything to do with evolution or natural selection. They are nothing but a money grab. The concern is indeed, that these birds will become extinct, many of them in our lifetime. All we will have is our captives. Parrots mate for life, so why would a person intentionally breed X species to Y species to create hybrids? They are just GUESSING this mating would create an evolutionary advantage? What the heck is that?

FOR DARWIN? FOR SCIENCE? Seriously? No, it's just for money and for new color schemes and whether bird people admit it or not, it's for status symbols.

You don't even have an argument. You're so arrogant and ignorant. The difference between me and you is I clarified "THIS IS MY OPINION."

You, on the other hand are also posting your opinion but you're shouting and you've got your chest puffed out and are insisting your opinion is fact. With nothing to back it up but stupid-ass smileys, excuse me.

Doesn't work that way. And you have no class.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:47 PM
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Sounds to me that those of you that aren't happy with the cross breeding are jealous.
What are you, fifteen years old? "YOU'rE JELOOOSSSSSS!"

Wow are you the breeder? How classy and mature. Your attitude is disgusting.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:54 PM
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see what i mean about stress? oops i wasnt going to comment further. there i go being arrogant again, by the way, its only my opinion. sorry i dont put that on every post.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:00 PM
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see what i mean about stress? oops i wasnt going to comment further. there i go being arrogant again, by the way, its only my opinion. sorry i dont put that on every post.
So what, you're trolling? How about actually BACKING UP what you are saying?

Me, I make it clear that what I post is my opinion. You do the opposite. You act as if what you post is undisputed fact. But when you get called on it, you bust out the histrionics (not much of a man, are you) and the catty little smileys that are supposed to...... well I don't know what they are supposed to do. I can only presume you use them because you have nothing to say and even if you did, no idea how to say it.

Maybe be more careful how you post your "opinions" and don't be so hateful and arrogant. I am not a christian, but I imagine there are christians on this board and I don't think they would appreciate their god being called a myth and being represented by the "crazy" smiley.

It's really sort of sick and I never expected to find such attitude on a board about PARROTS. For GOD's sake. Yes I said god, did your blood pressure spike?
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:02 PM
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Guys... c'mon. Stop the insults. We're all entitled to our own opinions, hmm? Just agree to disagree and shake hands. If you must continue ----> pm's.

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Old 06-26-2008, 10:07 PM
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Guys... c'mon. Stop the insults. We're all entitled to our own opinions, hmm? Just agree to disagree and shake hands. If you must continue ----> pm's.

/hugs to you both
Um I actually agree. HE is the one who is degrading me for my opinions. It's disgusting. ANd I hate that I will inevitably be the one punished for this. Because I'm new.

This scum was actually "member of the month" (whatever the hell that is)?? Really? This is the kind of behavior that gets member of the month? Telling people God is a myth? Using "crazy smiley" to describe Christians (when by the way what I said was not remotely religious and he just flipped out. He is not stable). Wow great member, what an asset.

how about being less abusive and wholly disrespectful?

I already said I didn't want to debate this but then he up and attacked me and all but called me a "jesus freak" and not only that used the "crazy" smiley to denote religious people.

Very disgusting in my opinion. Such things should not even come up on this forum. But he sure as hell went there.
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