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Old 11-04-2009, 04:45 AM
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Yea he definitely wasn't pied. Guess just a regular sun, although he didn't look much like the normal babies either.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:48 AM
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There's a wide variety of colorations with Sun babies. Some are more green, or less green, or have bright red crowns, or little to any red, big splotchy red cheeks or very yellow heads. It's like easter eggs! Different bloodlines produce different traits too.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:44 PM
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It was funny, because personality wise, I felt like I was holding Pedro when I had first gotten him! They had almost identical first impression personalities haha.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:56 PM
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There are also hybrids, too.... some hybrids might even be mistaken for jenday pieds (although I have yet to hear of the pied gene in Jendays, it's very easy to get the gene in them...)
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:00 PM
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You know, Monica...

You're right! I have never heard of a pied visual in a pure Jendaya! Hmmm!! That's interesting!!
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:20 PM
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The only cases I've heard of of pied in conures, would be sun conures and green cheeks.... However, the green cheek was labeled as an "aquired pied" - which means that it may not be a mutation at all, just an oddball of a bird... now someone else thinks they might have a pied GC but still unconfirmed.

So the only species that we know of for sure, in conures, that carry the pied gene, is in suns.


Considering all the lovebird and alexandrian mutations, I know that we could breed pied sun conures to jendays, to creat pied jendays.... but my opinion will remain the same about these new mutations.... they are still hybrids, and always will be. You can't "breed out" the hybrid genes, no matter how many generations later you've bred this bird back to one species.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:03 PM
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Exactly! Hybrids aren't mutations!
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:16 PM
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Hybrids *can* be mutations... not in the sense of all the hybrid macaws and conures... but like the eye-ring lovebird species, and alexandrine mutations... many of the mutations were "crossed over" via hybridization.

There's an article about it here...
Mutations In The Alexandrine Parrot

And if you look at the pictures, you can easily see that some of the mutations are hybrids...
Mutations Available
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