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Old 03-26-2007, 01:19 PM
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Talking Eclectus Colour Mutations!!!

Sorry for the caps but i just read in rob marshalls book that they come in different colours!!! Have any of u guys SEEN them? They come in blue!! OMG....I would pay 50,000 just to own a blue one!( if i had that much...hehe) they guys beaks look so stunning against the blue feathers!
ok i think the other mutations are 'hush hush' coz they might be 'aquired' colours but it says here that all the colour combimations are possible in the male coz he is green.... not the female....one day...
and the female version of blue is where it is red is white. simple. But they look almost like a camera negative- almost..
they are stunning!
the pied colour is scarey. there are pix...but like copyrite laws . Its a yellow with green flecks. They say unless these birds breed and produce similar ofspring- they are not true mutations....but these birds do have these weird colours!
one colour is called "red suffusion", half sider or chimera ones (they look like half is a female and half is a male...may be heamaphroditic....sp?) , then other birds with striped feathers (red, orange, red ,oragne, gree, red...ect on each feather in an area looks like a rainbow effect.) and flecks of wrong colour in places ect...but these moutl out or coudl be caused by weird feefding ect. Ive seen heaps of pix like this on a site (forgot hte addresS) it is rather fasinating and weird to see a colour other then green on a male- its shocking!
thought u might be interested!
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/main.html
found he site!:>
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:30 PM
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Land of Vos is a #1 site for everyone - even if you don't have an Ekkie.

All the photos were great - wonderful birds & the mutations are pretty amazing. The only thing about mutations is that they are often sited as the ones with nervous or high strung personalities & some of the problems that go with that + less vigor & more prone to illness.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:32 PM
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I may be way off base but it seems I remember reading that in order to mutate the birds to blue or any other color I imagine, it requires inbreeding the birds.
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:31 PM
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No inbreeding isn't needed to produce a color.... but it is used commonly where-in a new color is produce... they normally breed the offspring back to the parents to try and reproduce that color more often... thus a higher chance to create that color. Otherwise though, inbreeding is not needed to produce a color... it's more of a random accurance.

Below is a list of some mutations around the world... there's more out there too...

Amazon
Yellow Naped
http://www.voren.com/photogal/byn-1.jpg
http://www.voren.com/photogal/byn-close.jpg
????
http://www.yawyaw.com/images/avliabl...20mutation.JPG
Blue Front Amazon
http://www.bopahi.com/BFA-front.jpg
http://www.birdpark-jagrie.nl/bluefr...nomutation.jpg
Green Cheek
http://www.voren.com/photogal/cin-rh-adult.jpg
Red Lored
http://www.birdpark-jagrie.nl/redlor...nomutation.jpg
Red Front
http://www.dyrarikid.is/spjall/attac...1817/fugl1.jpg


Cockatoo
Galah
http://www.birdpark-jagrie.nl/galahc...nomutation.jpg
Yellow Tailed Black Too
http://www.bywong-community.org.au/2001/yellowcocky.jpg
Citron
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/images/good.icky.jpg


Conure
Black Capped
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/i...Vorenblcp3.JPG
Green Cheek
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/images/CinYS4.jpg
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/images/Greygc3.jpg
Brown Throat
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/cinnbrnthroat1.jpg
Quaker
http://www.birdpark-jagrie.nl/albinomonkparakeet.jpg
Sun
http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/kbush/piedsunconure1.jpg


Eclectus
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/rainbow1.gif
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/rainbow2.gif
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCI...cinnamon03.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/sydney3.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/S_raja02.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/babe1.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCImages/s_blondie.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCI...priesbaby1.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCI...sgreengirl.jpg
http://www.landofvos.com/strange/DCI...ctusssmale.jpg


Macaws
Blue And Gold
http://www.theparrotsocietyuk.org/ph.../pixs/cw14.jpg
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http://www.critterbreeders.com/male%20lutino%20B&G.jpg
http://www.birdboard.com/forum/attac...tachmentid=438
http://www.birdboard.com/forum/attac...tachmentid=439
http://www.birdboard.com/forum/attac...tachmentid=441
Severe
http://www.hillcountryaviaries.com/piedsevere.jpg
Scarlet
http://www.weshootbirds.com/images/p...rletmacaw5.jpg


Other
Princess of Wales
http://www.sittich-info.de/sittiche/bilder/pow.jpg
Rosellas
http://www.sittich-info.de/sittiche/...ttich-blau.jpg
http://www.drzoolittle.net/rosella.thumb.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/rubino.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/blackeastern.jpg
Ringneck
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/7.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/2.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/5.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/facing.jpg
http://www.mightymutations.com.au/12.jpg
Budgie
http://www.geocities.com/premierepets/americ.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/premierepet...herduster2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/premierepets/2bug4.JPG
Greys
http://www.geocities.com/premierepets/whitecongo.gif

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Old 03-26-2007, 09:41 PM
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I'm sure glad to hear that Monica!!
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:53 AM
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In the eclectus there is the blue female & male, both look very different in their shades of blue. Split blue, pied, red suffusion, 1/2 siders.

Also those eclectus mutations from LOV, most are not natural & are a result of either something in genetics going wrong or incorrect diet.

The cockatoo mutation pics aren't showing up.

If the yellow tail black is the one I'm thinking of, it's a natural mutation that's happened in the wild. This bird is almost completly yellow with a little black through it. There is the ocassional yellow tail that this does happen to in the wild so it can be a natural occurance sometimes.

The feather duster budgie as far as I'm concerned should be banned from breeding! These poor guys only live weeks to months. They can not fly or walk & eventually cannot breath because of the nature of the feathers curling. Yet they're still bed.

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:23 AM
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Wasn't sure if my last post would be understood or not!

Sorry that not all the links are working... here's some of the pied yellow tailed black too (newer photos probably....)

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As for "natural mutation" vs "unnatural"... well I gotta say that most all mutations are just natural flukes so to speak... however being in captivity they can easily reproduce and wont be culled from the flock (either from the flock shunning that particular bird, the parents ignoring or killing the chicks off, or from predators being able to pick them out) thus why we see so many mutations in captivity. Of course, then again I have heard of mutations that came about via hybridization... particularly in eye ring lovebirds and alexandrian parrots... if hybridization had occured to create specific mutations found in these birds, then of course these are not natural.... but otherwise I'd say every other mutation out there is...

In short though, people try to reproduce a new mutation more frequently by breeding inbreeding... or rather taking that new mutation and breeding it back to it's parents or other family relatives... in the hopes to bring out the mutation in more birds... thus a better chance to breed to new blood then back into themselves.... so inbreeding isn't needed to CREATE a mutation, but it can be used to try and ESTABLISH one.

As for the feather duster, I don't know of many people who purposely breed them.... as in most instances I hear of people separating the pair, then to re-pair them to new mates, so that the chicks don't happen again... or to retire the pair...
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:31 AM
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As for "natural mutation" vs "unnatural"... well I gotta say that most all mutations are just natural flukes so to speak...

Yes that is the cockatoo I was talking about.

That's also not what I meant by natural, unnatural. I meant it's a wild bird, this didn't happen in captivity.

There are featehr duster breeders out there. A few but they still exist.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:19 PM
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The thing that drew my attention to this type of bird first was the coloring. Although I found the pictures stunning I am still a big fan of the traditional male and female colors. Just my opinion .
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Like the blue mutation yellow nape amazon... that happened first in the wild...





I see your point....

As for feather dusters well I haven't heard of any intentionally trying to reproduce them.... indeed right though it's not fair to the chicks... it may be possible that they are trying to figure out a way to strengthen the genes thus the budgies would live longer? That I do not know... but in short I don't think it's a good idea due to the fact that it causes so much issues...
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