A question for you all

[xafsmom]

Actually, I'm serious about the shark.

[Tricia Mullins]

Actually, I'm serious about the shark.

LOL. I think I will pass on the shark. Been there done that with fish, gave it up after we lost our oscars we had for years, they died when the heater went crazy & killed them., I cried for the longest time.
Any pet we have now...must travel, I won't leave my family at home alone.
I will check into those other amazons Halo. Thanks for everybodys ideas.

[angelicarboreals]

Halo mentioned Mexican Red Headed Amazons, I have one as well and I am not sure if I would recommend one to someone with children. Yes, my guy is pretty docile compared to other Amazon species, but sometimes he gets in a "mood" and will bite. From what I have seen of him, he doesn't give much of a amazon warning either. (I have two amazons and compared to my other Amazon, who clearly warns me with eyes pinning, wings out, etc. my red headed gives no signs.) Case in point, the other evening I had company over and had him out on his playstand. It was time for the birdies to go to bed and I walked over to pick him up and he tried to bite. Sometimes when he is out and knows I am going to put him away he will lunge at me or my boyfriend. He is dowel trained, so this isn't a big deal for us (but I couldn't imagine letting a child try to handle him.) Even for a little Amazon he can pack a nasty whop when he wants, and little children's fingers are way more sensitive (and a whole lot smaller) than an adults.

[Halo]

I think it's all about how they are raised. Both of mine were even wild caught and they simply adore my children. Plus the Mexican Red Heads have less of that "one person" personalities than the DYH and other amazons. When the female MHRA is upset, she's very upfont about it; Alfie is never angry and they kids can literally do whatever they want with him.

[Buteo]

They (amazons) do stink though...
.....
Pionus are nice birds, Maxi's and Blue-Heads aren't tiny and they're not powder down birds. Ever see a mature Bronze-winged? STUNNING! The only drawback to Pi's is when they bite, they bite. They don't fake you out or do the mock lunge... lol Ok, maybe that's actually a good thing. Other than that, no drawback. Pi's are a perfect 9.

LOL! I'm surprised ya forgot xafsmom especially since this was the subject of another recent thread,....
I don't find it as strong as a Zon, Pi are slightly fragrant as well.

I think the Pi behaviour is a good thing...
They are very honest about their feelings. You don't have to worry about the dreaded "fakeout" like ya do with some other types.
I haven't met what I would call a vicious one - they are pretty easy going....
but you learn very quickly NEVER ignore a Pi's warning.........
unless you're into impromptu piercings.

[Eliza]

From what I understand about Pi's, though, is that they give off a fair amount of dust as well. Nothing like a cockatoo, of course, but they are dusty. They don't have a preen gland.

Maybe a poicephalus parrot? A conure, maybe -- there are SO many species of conure and they come in a wide range of sizes.

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[alwaysontimneh]

Everyone here is always talking about the Pionus and how great they are so I just googled them and I have to say that I am impressed especially with the bronze-winged. They seem like amazing birds and I want to learn more about them so I am off to do more research.

[xafsmom]

LOL! I'm surprised ya forgot xafsmom especially since this was the subject of another recent thread,....
I don't find it as strong as a Zon, Pi are slightly fragrant as well.

I think the Pi behaviour is a good thing...
They are very honest about their feelings. You don't have to worry about the dreaded "fakeout" like ya do with some other types.
I haven't met what I would call a vicious one - they are pretty easy going....
but you learn very quickly NEVER ignore a Pi's warning.........
unless you're into impromptu piercings.

Oh I didn't forget. Just that after being raised with Amazons, and owning a big Macaw, I don't find Pi's smelling bad at all. No moreso than any other medium sized bird, to be honest. I figure, according to others, that I have the nose sensitivity of a blood hound lol, so if I think they smell decent, they must! ...I can smell patchouli from 8 miles away. /nods

I will correct myself though, because I didn't finish something and it's misleading. Where I put they're not powder-down. They are, I forgot to put "But not half as bad as others like Greys or Too's, or even cockatiels." They don't have an uropygial gland. Shame on me for not editing before hitting enter.

[Halo]

LOL Macaws and Amazons really do stink... haven't smelled a Pi yet and not sure I want to now!

BUT... the White Fronted Zon... has NO STINK! He smells very pleasant and doesn't have the ferret musk/stinky feet smell that my Mexican Red Heads have. I thought at first it was just the smell from the previous house he was in (lots of perfume/air freshener smell there) but nope... he smells puuuuuurty!

[Willow]

None of my Zons stink.

I've never met a bird sweeter than my Orange Wing.