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Old 01-25-2005, 12:58 AM
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Hi I have just found out my baby sulpher crested has beak and feather I know its fatal but I cant get him put down because I just absolutely love him. I was wondering if anyone new of any recipes or alternative medicines that may help him to enjoy a healthier and longer life thankyou Michelle
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:25 AM
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There is all kinds of information on this online. The little bit I found does state that a bird canfight off the virus, that's why they should be tested again every few months. It also stated that a bird with PBFD can live a short or a long life. However the survivial rates are greater in older birds, how old is you Too?

Just keep your spirits up, your Too can sense your moods as well. Something I read said to stay upbeat and give lots of praise and keep him calm and warm.

I am so sorry you have to go through this, there are no words that I can say that will help.

I would suggest going and finding all info especially by Dr. Ritchie and read everything you can about any and all treatment and ways to help your bird live a comfortable life with you.
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pbfd bird

just wondering did the vet do just 1 test or was more than one test done that tested pos?

What was the reason that you had your bird tested?

Feed as many natural/fresh foods as you can along with vitamins, garlic oil or fresh ground garlic, alo extract, green tea and noni juice which will boost the immune system.

Be sure you have antibiotics and antifungals on hand just in case, because with PBFD the main problem is with secondary infection not the virus itself most of the time.

In time your bird may become immune to the virus and the body may destroy it with no other signs of infection.(it all depends on the birds age and immune system)

Either way your bird has a good chance of living through the infection but nobody can promise anything for sure but the longer your bird lives the better its chances of living long term.

Just remember dont get any more birds while you have that one and dont come into contact with anyone elses birds because you dont want to infect them also.

if you have any more questions just send me a pm and i will try to help.

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Old 01-25-2005, 03:07 AM
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Hi I have just found out my baby sulpher crested has beak and feather I know its fatal but I cant get him put down because I just absolutely love him. I was wondering if anyone new of any recipes or alternative medicines that may help him to enjoy a healthier and longer life thankyou Michelle
Hi,

There was a Hyacinth just diagnosed with Beak and Feather and the retest turned up negative. Don't give up and seek another lab test, they can be wrong.

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Old 01-25-2005, 03:16 AM
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I will probably be speaking with Dr ritchie soon so i will get more info from about treatment methods and survival rates.

Just remember that it is still the same bird so just treat him the same as you would normally and have another test done if you have only had one because there may have been a false positive.

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There is all kinds of information on this online. The little bit I found does state that a bird canfight off the virus, that's why they should be tested again every few months. It also stated that a bird with PBFD can live a short or a long life. However the survivial rates are greater in older birds, how old is you Too?

Just keep your spirits up, your Too can sense your moods as well. Something I read said to stay upbeat and give lots of praise and keep him calm and warm.

I am so sorry you have to go through this, there are no words that I can say that will help.

I would suggest going and finding all info especially by Dr. Ritchie and read everything you can about any and all treatment and ways to help your bird live a comfortable life with you.
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I lived through this nighmare this past spring when I feared that my macaw, Mia, had PBFD. She has twice tested negative. This is what I learned along the way:

Amazons and other New World birds seem to do best with the disease. In fact, many actually survive and live very long lives. They tend to produce chicks that have a very high mortality, however and of course its not advised to breed them in the first place. Some actually refeather and look pretty darn good.

Unfortunately, PBFD seems to ravish the Old World birds, especially the Toos. I'm sorry to have to state that, but Australia has a virtual epidemic. With each successive molt, the feathers get worse and worse. Eventually they will become slimy and never fully mature. They will actually fall out before they even open. As the disease advances, it then effects the beak. Again, it gets soft and eventually rots. It is a horrible, horrible disease only rivaled by PDD. Both have no known cures and little by way of treatment. You can only expect to manage some of the symptoms.

However, unless you get a POSITIVE feather assay, it could be a multitude of other feather diseases, often bacterial and treatable. In fact, I would repeat the test again in 90 days if it appears normal on the first one. If no other birds are brought into your home (I pray you wouldn't even consider that possibility) during that time frame and you get 2 negative tests in a row, I would thank my lucky stars and look for other problems. Most young birds under the age of 3 will succumb to PBFD. For more information, simply do an internet search. I also found that Avian BioTech was wonderfully helpful in explaining a lot of things about feather diseases and PBFD in particular.

My macaw still looks awful, is big, happy and apparently healthy. She did have a bacteria infection that was cured but now has developed the nasty habit of feather plucking. Its a heartbreaker, for sure, but at least its not PBFD.

I'll certainly pray for you and your darling bird. Its very difficult to not be able to say something wonderful. However, first you must fully understand what you're up against before you fight that war. God bless you and good luck.

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Old 01-25-2005, 04:31 AM
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Unhappy thankyou

I just wanted to say thankyou to everyone who replyed I was feeling very miserable when I found out and hearing that some birds have survived is giving me a little hope. Cockaboo is only 20 weeks old and hasnt shown any loss of feather yet. I took him to the avian vet because he had green runny poo and I noticed his beak and feet were getting darker. he lives on perch with our eclectus whose name is cash they have lived together since cockaboo was first addopted. Cash is 3 so I am hoping that he is too old to catch the disease but have had him tested and am waiting on the results. We also have a an alexandrine and 4 rainbow lorries. But they dont live in the same part of the house as Cockaboo. Outside I have a breeding pair of kings and a breeding pair of regents so the disease is NOT allowed to spread !!!!! :eusa_wall :eusa_naug :eusa_naug :eusa_naug
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:40 AM
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Here is an excellent article on PBFD. I hope this sheds some light on the subject.

http://www.parrotsociety.org.au/articles/art_007.htm

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I'm sorry about your 'too! I wish I had more advice but I think you have been given excellent advice by John and Nancy. I think you should get a 2nd opinion from another avian vet. The first one could be wrong.

Meanwhile I moved this post here to attract more responses from experts.
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