Lovebird or Conure?

[cockatiel92]

hey its neither its a quaker or also known as a monk parrot. they are great talkers. id recommend u go on youtube and look up quaker parrot. i once saw a video of a male builing this huge beutiful nest out of tooth picks i have to say it was breath taking. ill give u a link.

YouTube - Sparky Builds His Dream House

these birds are just so amazing

[fluffy_stitch]

i hope you are going to give this man back his bird and apologize for taking it and clipping its wings without his permission,you didnt even know what kind of bird it was so how can you criticise him for not knowing,im not an expert but the bird looks pretty healthy to me,was this animal control officer a bird expert and did you take the bird to an avian vet to see whether or not it was unhealthy???

[brdmom22]

I was not able to see the original picture but having read some of these posts and seeing the tiny cafe you have put this poor bird in well it makes me shudder and tend to strongly agree with what others have said.I also work with special needs patients and we work hard to let them be as normal as possible including having pets,we just make sure there are family members or staff who can follow thru with the teaching and care of the pets,seems you just wanted a free parrot that you know nothing about caring for,feeding a pellet diet is as bad as feeding seeds only,the pellets are not species specific so you have no way of knowing if your bird is getting everything or to much or certain things none of us would know thats why we feed a varied diet as close to natural as we can,I feel for the person you took this bird from,what will you do when the bird starts screaming and biting yo because it wants to be in its own home that you stole it from shame on you

[shatakqua]

Wow ! I have never posted here but I do alot of reading here. How that owner must be missing his bird !! I know if anyone were to take my Robbie(Quaker) I'd be heartbroken and would NEVER get over it ! The Quaker in question looks well taken care of to me ; as stated in previous replies, if it were not there's no way that you'd be able to handle him/her. It breaks my heart that you have taken this bird from its owner. Please rethink what you have done/are doing .. not just to the owner, but to the bird as well !!!

[shosh]

I agree wholeheartedly with what EVERYONE opposed to your actions has said.
It breaks my heart that you have taken this lovely bird away from it's rightful owner. I have recently rescued two lovebirds who were abandoned by their owner....one had plucked herself so badly, she was already terribly self-mutilated. She may never fly again due to the build-up of scar tissue from her wounds. Their cage was tiny with no toys and only budgie seeds for food. They are scared birds and untrained.
Those were birds who needed help....not this one.

This Quaker parrot was a beautiful, well-cared for , well-adjusted and sweet bird who you literally stole from its owner. You had no right and shame on you for using your position as this bird's "watcher" and care giver for a week, to abuse the situation for your own purposes.

The "big" cage you currently have him in is far too small for a Quaker and, as has been said, you obviously think yourself to be far more caring and knowledgeable than his previous owner and yet, you know very little.

I find it very telling that you have not responded again to any of these posts. I do not know if you are angry at us or if you feel any kind of shame or regret for your actions or if you are just too cowardly to respond. I guess you thought you'd get a whole lot of high 5's for your actions but the people who frequent bird board happen to LOVE birds and happen to have a very strong sense of right and wrong with regards to our feathery friends. You didn't rescue a bird in need at all....your selfish act has caused much pain for this man and, undoubtedly, for this bird who must miss him terribly and must be very confused.

If you do happen to realize that what you have done is wrong in every moral and legal sense, you will hopefully rectify this situation by giving this man back his bird with ONE HELL OF AN APOLOGY and trying to help him take better care of his bird instead of acting holier than thou and taking this man's friend and companion away from him. You may have grown attached to this bird by now but he is NOT yours to keep. You have a new cage...get yourself your own bird. It might cost a few dollars, but you'll have a free conscience knowing your bird is REALLY YOUR BIRD. I would, however, advise that you get a smaller bird for the cage you have now, or return it for a larger one if you get a larger bird.

If one were to find a cat or bird on the street, you could certainly choose to keep it after a reasonable time if you couldn't find the owner or if there were no notices put up for this animal. What you did, essentially, was to walk into someone's home under the pretense of looking after their animal, deign to decide that this person was incapable of looking after their animal, and just take it away since you, obviously, have more knowledge, more love and more WHATEVER to give to this animal. SHOCKING and very, very sad.

[Xen]

I'm guessing Skittle has decided to steal the bird. They've logged in and have no doubt seen these replies and chosen not to update.

I really hope that the birds owner and his family are working hard to get him home though...

[Oscar8]

I am offended that a couple of people are judging you for taking in this adorable bird. From what I read, you did not insult anyone. Please just keep loving your bird and forgive those who think they know the whole story of how you aquired this bird for judging you. You should not have been persecuted for coming onto this site to ask questions to give this bird a better life. Good luck.

[shosh]

You are offended!!!??
Get real, Oscar.
She DECIDED for herself to remove a perfectly happy, healthy, well-cared for bird from a man whom she deemed to be unsuitable to take care of this bird due to what she guessed, might be, FAS. There are many, many people with worse disabilities who are able to care for an animal quite well and many more who are functionally "normal" who are abusive and uncaring.

She was bird-sitting for him by request of his brother, for heaven's sake!!

There is no doubt in ANY OF OUR MINDS that she liked the bird enough to decide that he wasn't taking the RIGHT kind of care of him and certainly not giving him the kind of life SHE could give him.
That was certainly NOT her decision to make. She even said that she decided not to show him the things he could do to improve the bird's life ( even though, to all of us, he looked healthy and certainly, according to her, was a happy, social and loving bird) but that she would just KEEP him.

I have walked into homes where I have seen birds being treated less well than I certainly would treat them. I walked into one home where these budgies were sitting in a cage and cigarette smoke was wafting all around them. These birds, oddly enough, were happy enough and had survived long enough that they had adjusted quite well to their environment. Is it how I would have treated them? Absolutely not!!! Would I recommend that to anyone? NO!!! But they were not MY birds and they certainly were happy despite my personal objections to their living conditions. If these animals had been in an obvious crisis...sick, injured, bleeding, plucked...that would have been different.

But this bird was in excellent feather before she unilaterally decided clip his wings, by the way. ( as if the stress of losing his home wasn't bad enough, now he's lost his flying ability...way to go!)
His beak to our eyes looked perfect as did his weight. ( oh no...it's just the angle of the picture...he REALLY IS FAT because of that awful SEED diet )
His behaviour, from her own lips, is indicative of nothing but a loved and well-cared for bird.

It is easy to create an "abusive" situation in order to justify what we want. She believed that the love and care she could show this bird was better than what he was currently receiving and because she wanted this bird so badly, she made herself believe that he was being maltreated. People do it all the time to justify their behaviour. " My husband is mean and uncommunicative and doesn't treat me right, so I had an affair with so and so to feel better about myself...and it's his fault" Whatever....it happens all the time in numerous situations.

She wanted the bird....she made him out to be a bad owner. Simple.
You should really be able to see through that. Sometimes, people should not be given the benefit of the doubt. In this case, she should certainly be taken to task with regards to her behaviour.

I do not doubt for a moment that she will NOT return the bird. But by coming onto this forum, she opens herself up to advice AND criticism. I do not believe she feels any remorse nor does she feel she did anything wrong. She can't...she needs to justify her actions. Obviously, she alone understood the bird's dire situation and we do not. That's it. But I DO NOT HAVE TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO HER TELL US WHAT A WONDERFUL THING SHE DID AND NOT SAY MY PEACE.

Next time this young, foolish "rescuer" decides to find out what species of bird she stole, let her do an internet search on different types of birds. She obviously wanted praise from us that we weren't willing to bestow. I will not apologize for that, nor do I want her "forgiveness" as you put it.

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[ndeben]

skittle, you need to rethink this decision you have hastily made.

[Xen]

Originally Posted by Oscar8

I am offended that a couple of people are judging you for taking in this adorable bird. From what I read, you did not insult anyone. Please just keep loving your bird and forgive those who think they know the whole story of how you aquired this bird for judging you. You should not have been persecuted for coming onto this site to ask questions to give this bird a better life. Good luck.

So are any of us entitled to "steal" the bird from her as I've decided that it's not well cared for in a cage too small, surrounded by toxic plants?
Her knowledge isn't great either. Seeds aren't the work of the devil for one! Secondly she didn't even know the bird was a quaker... bet his owner does!

...Afterall, she got to decide that a healthy looking bird owned by a guy who MIGHT have FAS was mistreated. Why doesn't that offend you?

Also lets not forget the bonds that birds form with owners. He's no doubt missing his human like nothing else! I know that when I'm upset my Lily seems to know to be extra gentle and cuddly... she just KNOWS. I'm sure this bird does nothing but good for his owners POSSIBLE condition.
If his owner does have problems, the sad thing is he probably doesn't know his rights or what help is out there for him in this kind of situation.
He probably just wonders where his bird is and why someone he trusted took him away... THAT offends me to no end!