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Old 04-13-2005, 01:21 AM
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Hi all,

I have a female Gold Cap Conure and a male Jenday Conure. They are almost 3 yrs old. The female Tweety just finished laying 3 eggs and sat on them for over a month to no avail. Yesterday I removed the nesting box and would like for them to wait until next spring to try again. Is it safe to remove the box and will she get egg bound if she doesn't have a box. I feel really guilty about doing this but I am having my neices come over for a couple of wks in the summer and will not be able to hand feed babies. They do have a large wooden tower in their room with a small wooden box at the top of it. I noticed today that Tweety and Sweety were both in it. Any suggestions on this?? Also Tweety who always loved my husband Tim now bites him when he comes in the room.
Sorry about the long post. any Ideas on this would be appreciated.

Donna
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:15 PM
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Hello Donna, welcome to the group. I don't really know how to solve your little situation. You might want to post your question in "Ask The Experts". One thing I might suggest is, if you're finding them in the box at the top of their tower, you might want to close that off somehow. They may try to nest in it.

Best of luck to you.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:38 PM
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Welcome... Though might I suggest that you seperate the two birds immediately??? You are trying to hybridize two different types of conures, who may or may not be able to reproduce. The chicks could be sterile, like mules, or they might be able to reproduce, which if then the chicks were sold, and later bred, they would produce even more hybrid offspring.

The most likeliest of outcomes is that you would produce hybrid offspring that would be able to reproduce themselves, which would "soil" the bird gene pool (or blood). Please, refrain from hybridizing these two birds together, as birds are becoming so rare with a proper amount of fresh 'blood', gene pools, in a breeding flock, and so many birds being killed off from various reasons in the wild.

You can keep the two birds in seperate cages in the same room, and allow them supervised out of cage time, but PLEASE, for the sake of the birds, DO NOT let these two birds breed. If you seriously want to breed these birds, please find a mate for each bird, that is of the same exact species as the bird (i.e. a female jenday for the male jenday|a male gold capped for the female gold capped)
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Old 04-16-2005, 02:26 AM
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2 different spieces?

Hi Monica,
Thankyou for the welcome and the insight on my fids.
I believe I do have 2 jendays, which I was told when I adopted them. My cousin in S Carolina thinks one is a gold cap. but I do not believe this to be so. I did not get them to breed. But would like for tweedy to have a successful batch. She is such a dedicated momma. I think I will wait until next spring to have her mate again. and will definately look up further info on the breeds. They have been chilling alot as far as mating. But now all they do is scream until I come in and give them my ut most attention. This fid thing is a lot of work. I have a lot of time on my hands since I am on the disabled list. had back surgery a yr ago and am still recovering.
As far as my husband goes he's still won't go near tweedy is petrefied of geting knawled on his neck lol. I have to laugh but it is sad. We'll give it a couple of weeks, maybe by then she will chill a bit.

My zoo occupants are as follows,
Tweedy and Sweety Jendya conures
Bruno and Tascha My Chow Chows
Mr Turtle, A red Slider
one Gekho lizard
one Eye Jack My shark
2 garamies, assorted Fancy Gold fish
One large Pacu, One large Oscar
Assortment of Tropical Fish.
and oh of course my Betta fish.and two underwater frogs.
Chow
Donna
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Welcome... Though might I suggest that you seperate the two birds immediately??? You are trying to hybridize two different types of conures, who may or may not be able to reproduce. The chicks could be sterile, like mules, or they might be able to reproduce, which if then the chicks were sold, and later bred, they would produce even more hybrid offspring.

The most likeliest of outcomes is that you would produce hybrid offspring that would be able to reproduce themselves, which would "soil" the bird gene pool (or blood). Please, refrain from hybridizing these two birds together, as birds are becoming so rare with a proper amount of fresh 'blood', gene pools, in a breeding flock, and so many birds being killed off from various reasons in the wild.

You can keep the two birds in seperate cages in the same room, and allow them supervised out of cage time, but PLEASE, for the sake of the birds, DO NOT let these two birds breed. If you seriously want to breed these birds, please find a mate for each bird, that is of the same exact species as the bird (i.e. a female jenday for the male jenday|a male gold capped for the female gold capped)
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:08 AM
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Indeed Tweety IS a gold capped conure. She does have an extensive amount of red and yellow on her head compared to most goldcaps, however, she doesn't seem to look like a hybrid (which is possible, though best way to know for sure is to find her breeder i.e. the silver band on her leg if you don't know him, or ask for information from where you got her).

Sweety is a jenday no doubt.

I was worried that I had possibly offended you because of my post, though indeed you do have two different types of conures which you shouldn't permit them to have offspring together. If you would like to breed her in the future, then it would be best for you to find a male goldcapped conure so you will not hybridize them. If you did let them breed in the future, what had you planned for the chicks??? It's quite harsh for hybrid chicks and unknowledgeable people who want to get into the bird breeding business though have no clue that they have a hybrid bird which would destroy the pure blood lines. Hybrid birds are also normally unpredictable as they are a combination of two different birds who normally act differently, may have different nesting behavoirs/activities, and may prefer certains things. With hybrid chicks though, there personality is unknown at first, and depending on whether how close the parents are, there is a possibility that the chick will be born deformed or may have been born with something internally wrong.


Yes, having fids can be a lot of work! It's just a pitty though to see other birds firsthand in a bad living condition though not worth investigation as many animal control officers, or normal rescues do not know much about bird care firsthand and so therefore cannot spot a bad situation. The bird rescue/sanctuary organizations however cannot due anything themselves for birds in a bad situation if the owners are not willing to give the bird up, unless they were to file for animal abuse or something similar. It's a tough life for captive birds, but just living with them is so pleasurable!

I hope all is well with you and your husband and that your recovering stage has been going well! The spine and knees are the worst spots to have to get surgery on, or even to have problems in those two areas! Oh, and you have quite the zoo! You must be so privilaged to live in their home! LOL
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