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Old 09-28-2007, 02:25 AM
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PETA's intentions are to end the use and keeping of all animals. Including your pet dogs, cats, parrots, it doesn't matter. They have been quoted as saying their goal is to see the extinction of all pets. You can learn a lot about them by looking around online.

Vick is scum. PETA is scum too. I don't care if one "only" killed eight and the other killed eight thousand -- I have no use for either and they can share a cold dark pit.

I couldn't have said it ANY BETTER

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Old 09-28-2007, 03:08 AM
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PETA's intentions are to end the use and keeping of all animals. Including your pet dogs, cats, parrots, it doesn't matter. They have been quoted as saying their goal is to see the extinction of all pets. You can learn a lot about them by looking around online.

Vick is scum. PETA is scum too. I don't care if one "only" killed eight and the other killed eight thousand -- I have no use for either and they can share a cold dark pit.
I used to belong to PETA. As everyone hopefully knows, there is a fringe lunatic part of PETA that doesn't want people to have "pets" of any sort. However, most PETA members are owned by dogs, cats, etc. Like me. Like you. They will have radical advertising campaigns as that's the best way to get the public's attention. If they just did an oh-hum campaign, nobody would notice and nobody would care.

PETA has been partly instrumental in stopping Burger King from buying beef where cattle (well, people) are destroying the forests. (Forests are torn down for grazing.) They exposed KFC's incredibly inhumane chicken slaughter houses.

I think everyone would be a lot less critical of PETA if they saw all the good they have done and continue to do and disregard the fringe element.

These types of ads show up periodically, condeming PETA for their campaigns.

Finally, I say I "used" to belong to PETA. I didn't drop my membership because I disagreed with their policies. I dropped it because I couldn't afford to belong to every animal group out there and still pay my mortgage.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:59 AM
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PETA has been partly instrumental in stopping Burger King from buying beef where cattle (well, people) are destroying the forests. (Forests are torn down for grazing.) They exposed KFC's incredibly inhumane chicken slaughter houses.

I think everyone would be a lot less critical of PETA if they saw all the good they have done and continue to do and disregard the fringe element.
The very sad part is, I know a lot of PETA members are normal folks who just love animals -- but they are overshadowed by the nuts who want all pets and animals "free" of "human slavery."

What's even more sad is I would otherwise applaud PETA for the good things they have, or may have done in bringing about more humane conditions for factory farmed animals and the like. But I cannot, because to support them there would bring them more support overall, and I will never be able to do that. My animals are a joy in my life, and I will offer no support to anyone who would try and take away my right to have them.

What they say about a few bad apple spoiling the rest is definitely true in this case.

Vick can still have the cold dark pit though.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:59 AM
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Their work (PETA) they did trying to destroy that breeder in Washington state last year I think it was? Was when they lost any credibility with me.

I guess they were good in their time. I'm a tree hugger myself and have participated in more then one "save the Redwood" event. A lot of what I see PETA doing now would be like burning down the Redwoods so you could't have a deck.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:00 AM
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Right, PETA has done a lot of good in certain areas... however, I would never support them, either... There isn't any "necessary evil", IMO.... however, I do believe that religion can play a big part on how animals are kept... I know in some religions it's "okay" to use animals as a sacrifie. In others, the animals are cherished... and yet, in others, they mention that animals were put on the earth for OUR (as in human) entertainment and OUR own will, saying that animals do not have souls where-in we (humans) do. I honestly could never be able to see it that last way.... Of course, then there are those who may not be religious at all, and may or may not care either way on how animals are being cared for.... or even the ignorant who just don't know any better or refuse to learn better.


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Old 09-28-2007, 12:31 PM
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All the PETA stuff aside.

As a vegan I find this shirt very disturbing and sad
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:07 PM
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All the PETA stuff aside.

As a vegan I find this shirt very disturbing and sad

This would be setting this post in a totally opposite direction so maybe a new post should be started but as an omnivore, I find that shirt very funny.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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At one time, I was a game breeder. I did not raise my animals for fur, but I was "Hit" by PETA. I firmly believe one day they will stand before God and answer for the cruelty they inflicted. The ends, do not justify the means. Ingrid Newkirk is the founder of PETA, and I believe she is evil. I have read her books and thoughts. She is also for euthanasia of the sick, elderly and handicapped! Anyone remember Hitler????

I think animals have souls. They have the breath of life in them. I don't know where some religions get that they don't. The Bible does not say that. I suppose that could be a whole new post. LOL Anyway, a righteous person reguards the life.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:35 PM
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...But I cannot, because to support them there would bring them more support overall, and I will never be able to do that. My animals are a joy in my life, and I will offer no support to anyone who would try and take away my right to have them.

What they say about a few bad apple spoiling the rest is definitely true in this case.

Vick can still have the cold dark pit though.
I may be crossing the line here but I'm sure the administrators will scold me if I am. But when looking at the candidates running for president, for example, you may disagree on their stand on one or more issue, but you wouldn't throw your vote to someone else because of that. You'd vote for her or him because you agree with the majority of what they stand for.

The same should hold true for PETA. I certainly don't agree with their fringe element for releasing lab animals to the wild. I appreciate the point they're trying to make, but those animals will never survive in the wild. Or, to give another example, burning down a building because it was an infringement on migrating animals.

Colorado Humane Society has just been accused of disposing of euthanized animals in a dumpster behind their facility. The directives on the chemical state the body must be cremated or deeply buried. Otherwise, if wild animals or birds eat the carcasses, they will die within minutes. There are laws against that. So as this investigation heats up, PETA is sending their representatives to meet with Colorado Humane's Board to demand that they be held accountable...even if it means heads will fly. (I hope so.) Few other organizations have stepped up to the plate. So I commend PETA for stepping in so quickly. Wouldn't you?

And, finally, yes, Michael Vick should rot in you-know-where.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:48 PM
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Some animals don't even make it to the shelter, they are killed in the PETA van minutes after they are picked up. Most shelters only euthanize about 25% of their animals, not 90%. Are they even trying? PETA would have enough money to care for all the animals they take in if they stopped spending money on attacking other organizations that support animal-testing, even if all they do is support it and not actually do it. Their goal is to have no pets, and for everyone to be vegans. That simply will never happen.

Why don't they try the guilt approach, like DogsInDanger
They are already trying to guilt us about everything, why don't they use the same 'Adopt this animal or it dies' approach? Honestly, until very very recently I didn't even know that PETA was really an animal shelter. I thought they were ONLY an organization that attacked other organizations that mistreated their animals. Everyone knows who PETA is, they don't need to be so 'in-your-face' anymore with the lawsuits and whatnot to get attention. They should use all of their money and actually focus on the animals they take in.
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