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Old 10-16-2006, 06:09 AM
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I'm an Egnilsh mjoar. I shulod try tunrnig in a ppaer lkie taht. Waht do you tihnk?

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Old 10-16-2006, 09:51 AM
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophiestkated2
Dyslexia has always fascinated me. I wonder whar it is like to see words differently than the way they are written. Although I can typo, I mean, type dysexlian, I can't imagine what it would be like to read it that way. If you don't mind, would you bother to try to explain it to me? I really am very interested in how you negoiate it.

Jeth
I'll try, but it's not that easy to explain.
There are different "levels" of Dyslexic distortion.
Mine doesn't hit with every word, but it's much worse when I'm tired, or under the weather....
When I look at a sentence, at first glance some of the words look unpronounceable.
The brain recognizes & tries to formulate variations on the sentence by guessing at the scrambled words.

"Unpronounceable" is a good example of a word that easily stresses the effect. If necessary, I isolate the first & last letters of the scrambled word, then think of words that match the "profile" (15 letters, long starting with U & ending with E),
then thinking about how that word would affect the context of the sentence & paragraph. Sometimes it's the the context of the sentence & paragraph that give you the hint.

I sometimes have to go letter by letter, spelling the word to myself out loud.
Dyslexia doesn't have any affect on the hearing the word, just seeing it
The hard part is concentrating on trusting what you're listening to over what you see.....
It's not easy considering the human brain is designed to natively process the largest inputs from your Vision, with hearing being a close second.

It really works against me checking for spelling mistakes though.
I HATE making spelling mistakes.
I know I shouldn't, but spelling errors make me feel stupid.
(That's a leftover from when I was young & dyslexia was unknown. It was most commonly "misdiagnosed" by those in the medical & education fields as "just plain carelessness or sheer laziness".)
Sometimes when I come across a spelling mistake, I literally can't see it because I discount it as a brainfart in the old vision center.

Makes posting a whole lot faster when there's a spellchecker!

** BTW, Featherlover.....
I don't know if ya would get "shot" or not.
Some very intelligent people connected with higher education have been rife with their own forms of
"manglish" (mangled english)....
Reverend W. A. Spooner (1844-1930) was Dean and Warden of New College in Oxford, England.
He regularly slaughtered the english language when giving a speech and the particular fashion of phonetically transposing the initial consonants or word sounds that he commonly made was named after him: Spoonerisms.
I always saw spoonerisms as a form of dyslexia of the speech centers, as it is not so much the letters which are swapped as the sounds themselves.
So Rev. Spooner will be forever known as a man famous for his "tips of the slung".

Try this story....

Prinderella and the Cince
by Colonel Stoopnagle
Here, indeed, is a story that'll make your cresh fleep. It will give you poose gimples. Think of a poor little glip of a surl, prairie vitty, who, just because she had two sisty uglers, had to flop the more, clinkle the shuvvers out of the stitchen cove and do all the other chasty nores, while her soamly histers went to a drancy bess fall. Wasn't that a shirty dame?

Well, to make a long shorry stort, this youngless hapster was chewing her doors one day, when who should suddenly appear but a garry fawdmother. Beeling very fadly for this witty prafe, she happed her clands, said a couple of waggic merds, and in the ash of a flybrow, Cinderella* was transformed into a bavaging reauty.

And out at the sturbcone stood a nagmificent coalden goach, made of a pipe rellow yumpkin. The gaudy fairmother told her to hop in and dive to the drance, but added that she must positively be mid by homelight. So, overmoash with accumtion, she fanked the tharry from the hottom of her bart, bimed acloard, the driver whacked his crip, and off they went in a dowd of clust.

Soon they came to a casterful wundel, where a pransome hince was possing a tarty for the teeple of the pown. Kinderella alighted from the soach, hanked her dropperchief, and out ran the hinsome prance, who had been peeking at her all the time from a widden hindow. The sugly isters stood bylently sigh, not sinderizing Reckognella in her goyal rarments.

Well, to make a long shorty still storer, the nince went absolutely pruts over the pruvvly lincess. After several dowers of antsing, he was ayzier than crevver. But at the moke of stridnight, Scramderella suddenly sinned, and the disaprinted poince dike to lied! He had forgotten to ask the nincess her prame! But as she went stunning down the long reps, she slicked off one of the glass kippers she was wearing, and the pounce princed upon it with eeming glize.

The next day he tied all over trown to find the lainty daydy whose foot slitted that fipper. And the ditty prame with the only fit that footed was none other than our layding leedy. So she finally prairied the mince, and they happed livily after everward.

* Parze pleedon me for nelling the spame in such a morrect cranner.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:26 PM
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Z showed me this same thing awhile back, and I find it amazing. Whoda thunk it?
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:56 PM
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** BTW, Featherlover.....
I don't know if ya would get "shot" or not.
Some very intelligent people connected with higher education have been rife with their own forms of
"manglish" (mangled english)....
Reverend W. A. Spooner (1844-1930) was Dean and Warden of New College in Oxford, England.
He regularly slaughtered the english language when giving a speech and the particular fashion of phonetically transposing the initial consonants or word sounds that he commonly made was named after him: Spoonerisms.
I always saw spoonerisms as a form of dyslexia of the speech centers, as it is not so much the letters which are swapped as the sounds themselves.
So Rev. Spooner will be forever known as a man famous for his "tips of the slung".
That's really interesting. Manglish. I like that.
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:51 AM
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Help me! My mind is now crosseyed and my eyes go every which way.That is very amazing how that works, reading that was almost easier than normal. Thanks very cool!
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:57 AM
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Wow that was actually quite easy for me to read!
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:44 AM
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Waht a theard tlite! most of us couldn't resist raeidng mroe.
Manglish!
Hey - Buteo - fellow sufferer but different too - lazy is what they called me - i could surf a book a night cause i love stories, once I gained confidence - but never ask me the names or places or spelling of the character's names [my versions were way off - laughable]. I also read phrases out of order - but learned to correct that by reading tons & later reading aloud (I read to my son - I'd always been afraid to try [i refused at school] until he needed me to read). Thankfully 'few' said i was stupid - just my name for it inside. It held me back in school tho until I learned about dyslexia & confronted my probelm. I certainly felt less stupid & tried harder because of it. In math I literally make up numbers so I have to be very careful to recheck everything [you say 7 & i write 3, look at it & can't understand why it isn't 7] - hard when your profession demands numerical accuracy. I was a draftman/detailer for exhibits & good at it & very focused - maybe it strengthens that part if it doesn't break you.

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Old 10-19-2006, 02:58 AM
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Wow! That was excellent! I actually GET it now! Jeesh, I don't think I could ever get past that. It's amazing to me that folks can learn to navigate around what is real in their eyes. Absolutely fascininating. Thanks so much for giving me a glimpse into a world I've always wondered about, and kudos for all that deal with it!!

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Wow, we learned something not bird related. Buteo and Homebird thank you for sharing your experiences. I had understood the basics of dyslexia but this made it really clear. And about the variations from person to person.
I almost didn't read the thread because in the preview I had seen that paragraph before. I just stopped to see if someone was having trouble trying to explain it to the Princeth.
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