Out of curiousity...

[Cindy215]

Originally Posted by Missi

I was reading an article about the rescues that held the pets during the Hurricane Katrina disaster.....It said there was high security at most of the rescues because "animal rights" groups were trying to get in and let the animals loose. Why would they want to do that? I don't want to start a debate what-so-ever, I'm just curious.

Can you post the link please?

[Cindy215]

Sorry guys, I am an animal rights activist and have never once read any other serious activist say to let all animals "free"...on any site that I visit. Nor is this the position of PETA.

Free from bad situations like medical research labs, yes. But not free running around outside. Free as in free from jail.

Alot of nuts post stupid stuff like that just to start trouble INCLUDING Anti-animal Rights Activist individuals to elicit just the response you had. To give the serious ones a bad name.

[carlowman37]

Originally Posted by Missi

I was reading an article about the rescues that held the pets during the Hurricane Katrina disaster.....It said there was high security at most of the rescues because "animal rights" groups were trying to get in and let the animals loose. Why would they want to do that? I don't want to start a debate what-so-ever, I'm just curious.

some times its good to start a debate and not feel threatened,extreme views should always be faced down

[Cindy215]

Originally Posted by carlowman37

some times its good to start a debate and not feel threatened,extreme views should always be faced down

Well I don't think there's any reason to debate some article we haven't read or even some people claiming something happened at their rescue that may be perception not reality.

I was just curious about reading the article and also wanted to point out that trolls and trouble makers show up in places pretending to take the OPPOSITE side of what they believe...to give the opposition a bad name.

Another site I'm on that is anti-breeding some guy posted a thread called something like "Rescues are Big Scams" and pretended to be a member of that board. Just to start trouble. Which was ok, since that was a political forum on that site. We don't have a political forum here.

Debates on the boards meant for non political purposes (Birdboard for one) always turn into problems. Go back and read a couple threads and you'll see what happened here from November through New Years. A couple clipping threads (one about 600 some posts long), a pellets thread and a couple others.

That's why new rules were posted after New Years.

[carlowman37]

im talking in general is all

[Cindy215]

Also I don't know what you mean by "extreme views should always be faced down". Extreme views have saved the lives of many individuals in history like slaves in America. Sometimes taking a stand is considered extreme by people who wont take a position.

Just like in Northern Ireland, there are extreme views on both sides and true change takes generations. And usually an extreme view is necessary.

[Cindy215]

Originally Posted by carlowman37

im talking in general is all

got it

[trtldove76]

I really wanted to stay out of this disscution however.
People claiming to be PETA http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_.../headline/2982
might want to think twice about doing so!

[Cindy215]

Yes please don't even go there. The Center For Consumer Freedom is a group of nothing to do with consumer freedom. It's self described on that site:

QUOTE:

The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.

ENDQUOTE

Because PETA advocates veganism, this group targets them. Because PETA has successfully proven the horrendous conditions in the factory farm system used by places like KFC.

So see? You cannot take everything you read on the internet as true.

Regarding PETA euthanizing animals that is an old story and last time I checked the trial had not started yet.

PETA certainly IS in favor of humane euthanasia versus the group gas chambers that are still used in many shelters particularly in the south where PETA HQ are. So when shelters want to use the gas chamber (a torturous death) PETA will request that they at least use the needle.

AGAIN, research everything, you cannot take any one source as accurate.

I think by now from my posts you wouldn't consider me any kind of "nut" if I didnt self disclose LOL.

[Monica]

Last time I heard, the trial was dismissed because the judge didn't think it was cruel for two people to be euthanizing what was said to be perfectly healthy and adoptable animals in the back of a van.

A jury in Wilton, North Carolina Friday evening found two PETA staffers not
guilty of animal cruelty, the most serious of the counts they had faced in
a two week trial that commanded national media attention. Adria Hinkle and
Andrew Cook were convicted of littering, relating to their dumping of the
bodies of the animals they had killed.

Both received a 10-day suspended jail sentence, a year of supervised
probation, and 50 days of community service. They were ordered to pay fines
and restitution amounting to nearly $8,000. The PETA-owned van in which
they killed
the cats and dogs is to be confiscated by police.

Outside of the courtroom, PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo told
reporters,"The important thing is the jury recognized they were never guilty
of cruelty.
We're relieved, we're happy."

"It's a disgrace," said Andrea Press, a member of Responsible Dog Owners of
Eastern States. "PETA preaches to everybody not to hurt and kill animals.
And they just proved it's OK for them to do it. They're hypocrites."

If you'd like more I'd be more than welcome to send you the rest of the articles that I have, privately....