Pied blue gold macaw?

[Monica]

Originally Posted by ROYJOY

Monica, there is a site calling those opalines (that you showed us) calling them pied. i must agree those are opalines. i think this baby in India is a pied if his flesh is also involved.

http//pets.webshots.com/album/570120599pjvGxa?start=60 oops that didnt work.

When the opalines first started showing up, everyone called them pieds. I don't know if the mutation is sex-linked or not, but when compared to other opaline mutations, I believe these "pieds" really are opalines, since it altars the coloration on the head, back, and breast area, predominantely. The opaline mutations do vary between species, such as the opaline (yellowside) green cheek, opaline (pearl) cockatiel, opaline lovebird, and opaline budgies.

Looking through the album you linked to, they have a "silver" B&G which appears that it may be an opaline blue. Although, I do wonder if perhaps another gene is taking into effect. All the "white" macaws are the blue mutation.

[ROYJOY]

yes, i have a short cut to that album on my computer.

To me, that silver looks like the whites, might just be the lighting.

[Monica]

Here's a "black" mutation... the opaline blue ("silver" - first one) might also be a third mutation, although then again it could also be lighting.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...db5755b721.jpg

The "silvers" look dirty in coloration and in some of the pics there is color on top of the head - which is not normal within other opalines. This could simply be a difference within the genetics of opaline or perhaps some other mutation taking into account.


It would be interesting though to learn more about the OP's B&G.

[mommaof3]

Arun, the pictures are beautiful!

[ROYJOY]

that black one looks brownish grey. maybe thats the camera, or my computer. if it were true black and gold it would be a looker.

[Monica]

To me the macaw looks black, but not black like the throat and facial feathers. That image may be a scanned image too which may throw off the colors. Still, the macaw is not blue as he/she should be - so who knows.

[benjadeed]

Hi arun.

I don't think the macaw is pied. if the pied gene is recessive then there will not be any signs of the pied, hence making the bird a split.



this is a lutino pied blue gold macaw. the pied gene is dominant over the lutino.

hope you got that right.

ne ways......wonderful bird....!!!

[Monica]

Benjadeed, the pictures you linked to are not lutinos, nor are they pieds. The correct term is opaline, the same mutation that creates pearl cockatiels and yellowsided green cheek conures.

Pied is not dominant over lutino, as it's possible to have pied lutinos. However, it may be impossible to tell that a lutino is pied. As of yet, I have not seen any confirmed pied B&G's, beyond a couple of yellow feathers (usually tail feathers) or partially 'white' toes. The closest I've seen to a pied B&G would actually be a hybrid macaw, a second generation harlequin, to be exact. Both parents, if I recall correctly, were harlies, too. This hybrid appears as if he *might* be a pied, but he could also be a uniquely colored hybrid. Without testing the feathers, and/or seeing if any other siblings turn up like this hybrid, we can't be sure.